During this blog's two month run, we've taken a look at a number of ways the bumping of miners can't be countered. Hoping to avoid the mandatory 10 million isk mining fee, disobedient miners have put their faith in a lot of things other than the Code. I hope miners have found it helpful when I disabused them of their false hopes.
Just to cite a few: Suicide ganking the noble bumpers, petitioning to permaban me, mockery (usually in bad taste), poisoning the well against the New Order, "intimidation" through locking without firing, the classic "orbit your asteroid" trick, counter-bumping bumpers, hiring mercenaries, arguing about EULA violations, impersonation of CCP staff, conspiracies, threats of real-life harm, psychological warfare, 1v1 duel challenges, arguing about the Code itself, anti-Order propaganda, and wardecs, just to name a few. All have failed to stop the New Order.
This raises one obvious question: What exactly is the counter to bumping? I would always be inclined to answer "pay your 10 million isk according to the Code", but I can see why rebels wouldn't be satisfied. Allow me to present an alternative answer, then.
The question itself is flawed. Bumping miners is the counter. It doesn't need a counter, any more than the cure for a disease needs an anti-cure. If there was a counter for bumping, I would ask for a counter to the counter, and so on.
Bumping is a counter for the pervasive sickness of AFK mining, botting, and bot-aspiration in highsec today. The New Order is the medicine. Miners looking for an antidote to the medicine are looking at things entirely the wrong way. My hope is that these miners will stick with this blog, take another look at the Code, and be cured. More than a few miners have been rescued from their old habits. They read the Code one more time, and they experience that "Aha!" moment.
If you're a miner and you've become frustrated by your inability to defeat the New Order, I would suggest maybe the real root of your frustration is the mining. Be of good cheer, miner, for there is a solution to that problem. We're from the New Order, and we're here to help.
I've found that the counter to bumping is to say that you enjoyed the bumping, and to offer to pay the bumper ISK for every hour that he sits and bumps you continually. Every time that I have done this, the bumper has refused any amount of ISK to do this, and has instead afterwards never bumped me again. I think it scares them.
ReplyDeleteWell, if you know, what to look for, you may find a place near a ice roid where you cant be bumped.
ReplyDeleteOr, and I like this one more, mine ore, sell it and buy the ice products, needs more active gameplay thought.
I can already tell you that any seasoned bumper will be able to pry a miner away from any ice asteroid. There are spots in belts where a mining ship can be safe from long-range bumps (in between three or so rocks), but a bumper will just work his way into where the ship is and nudge them out.
DeleteFrom there, it's a bump party.
How can one absolve himself of his afk crimes by paying 10m isk once every year?
ReplyDeleteThe 'fee' seems much more like a bribe to me. A bribe for the Order to look the other way when they continue to afk mine for a whole year.
No miner should be exempt from afk checks, or the New Order ideals are in imminent danger of imploding when applied in the context of the brilliant manifesto James wrote a few months back.
Who said anything about exemptions? Surely not the Code. But there are many miners, and only so many bumpers. We prioritize. Those who are willing to pay their fees are much less likely to be in rebellion than those who openly defy us. One Code violation tends to follow another.
Deletei was wondering how the new bounty system is going to effect this noble cause...
ReplyDeleteMore toasted attackers, perhaps? People have been offering financial incentive to blow up my Invincible Stabber for some time now; I don't think it's lack of incentive that's the problem.
DeleteThe counter to bumping is to actually pilot your ship. That's the beauty of it
ReplyDeleteHmm never said anything abot the ones who move to 0 meters of their roid
ReplyDeleteA decent ice mining fleet can mine out a 500m isk belt in under 3 hours. The typical self-indulgent child from NO is on for around 3 hours. During this time there is no mining..... In this time you can:
ReplyDelete1. Bump anyone who has paid. Anyone allowed, or anyone mining while fellow miners are being bumped are guilty of transgressing the Mining Code allowing any other miner to bump them in response. What to do if you find yourself being left alone while a fellow miner is being bumped: Offer to pay a percentage of your cargo to the bumped miner by way of his or her honourable sacrifice that allows you to enjoy the bountiful harvest of the ice field.
2. Mine Roids - just warp from one to the other - they can actually bump all ice miners due to the time it takes for the cycle to complete - but so long as you shut down your own strip miner you get ore even if you are bumped. This means the bumper to miner ratio must be 1:1 or better in favour of the bumpers to shut down mining. ie they will need 3:1 ratio of bumpers to miners because some belts are on top of each other allowing a miner to make it to one and mine a bit before NO can work out which one you are at. Scope out the roid fields in a T1 frig and book mark the rocks themselves Warp to zero to your bookmarks in a procurer or skiff.
2. Get in a meta 1 tanked procurer, Select your favourite block of ice and hit approach or orbit 500. Then then go AFK.. NO will need help to gank and it will cost them more in ships than yours is worth.
3. Call Concord. Send 2 rookie ships into an ice field - open fire on one with the other. That will attract the services of Concord thus materially increasing the difficulty of the gank.
4. Out wait them. Go to a tac that overlooks the field, cloak up and wait. In your alt do missions etc.
Through all of this there is no reason to engage NO in conversation. Doing so is as useful as discussing particle physics with a demented schizophrenic with n stage Alzheimer's.
"Through all of this there is no reason to engage NO in conversation."
DeleteAnd yet this is exactly what you are trying to do by posting here. Perhaps it's time to up your Alzheimer's meds.