Meet Samui Pelox. Highsec miner. Explorer. Skeptic.
Samui began reading excerpts from our Code and pasting them into local, pointing out all the problems she had with it.
Some people think that all we need to do to recruit people is just hand them a copy of the Code and let it work its magic. Sometimes, yes. But not always. Some miners grapple with the Code, for there are a lot of challenging passages. On the surface it may look like subjugation, but it's the opposite. Code-compliant miners are the happiest, freest miners I know.
Luckily, our Agents do not simply pass out links to the Code in local and say "see ya later". Agents of the New Order guide the miners and help them through the wonderful journey to enlightenment.
Samui was most concerned about the "blackmail" in the Code. Obviously there isn't any. The Code is all about rewarding people for doing the right thing. We rescue them from the natural hazards of non-compliance, such as being bumped or killed.
I've often seen miners copy-pasta the definition of "extortion" into local. This may be the first time we got a "blackmail" entry. And from Urban Dictionary, no less!
By this point, you might assume Samui is too far gone. True, most people would give up and say Samui's vision of EVE is irreconcilable to their own, and part ways. That's not how the New Order works, though.
We have a "no miner left behind" policy. We're not interested in some of highsec, but all of it. We're not here to improve highsec, but to perfect it. That means we must make every effort to achieve 100% Code compliance.
The story has a happy ending. Samui Pelox came to understand and appreciate the New Order and its Code. Like many skeptics, the more time she spent with the New Order family, the more common ground she discovered. And so it will be with every miner in highsec. Skeptics, rebels, and all.
Ahh shucks ... another sympathizer added to the list to be marked for death. We keep killing agents and sympathizers, and you guys keep giving us new targets. It's a win win for the New New Order and the Old Newb Order.
ReplyDeleteYou have provided an amazing amount of evidence to backup your claims. Tell us more anonymous guy.
DeleteAh, so sure of yourself Mallak. Why don't you do the research before making assumptions :) Bye the way, here's a few links. More to come.
Deletehttp://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15368050
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15529914
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15518995
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15485296
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15485295
Disposable ships are disposable, tbh they were destined to explode anyway, somebody just gave Concord a hand with it.
DeleteThe point Mallak was trying to make, was that New Order agents don't get killed. And looks like someone proved him wrong.
DeleteActually the point I successfully made was that you had no evidence to backup your claims. You claim to be winning the war against the New Order of Highsec, yet your attacks have been based against the Knights of the New Order.
DeleteHowever, congratulations on whoring in on the killmails of suicide ships that were about to die anyway, bar one. In fact, a lot of your kills from the last couple of months have been whore-ins.
Tell us more about how you're going to bring down the New Order using this tactic.
"Ahh shucks ... another sympathizer added to the list to be marked for death. We keep killing agents and sympathizers, and you guys keep giving us new targets. It's a win win for the New New Order and the Old Newb Order"
DeleteCalm down and learn to read kiddo, it is just a game, all about fun and fair play. Nothing in there states "winning" the war. Obviously you're refering to "It's a win win for the New New Order and the Old Newb Order", and if that's the case, you need to re-read it. It's not about bringing down the New Order, it's about protecting the miners.
By the way I love how defensive you've gotten about the kills; love the language. Yes, the ships were going to be blown up, AFTER they ganked a miner, but instead were blown up before they were able to just that. That's why it was successful :)
If killing the suicide ganker before they perform the gank is the goal, then some elaboration is required for several of your kills, such as this one; http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15485295
DeleteSuccess may not be your... Forte.
Lol wow. Learn to admit defeat once in a while. Glad I looked at the site guess i wont join
DeleteWhy would I admit defeat when I haven't been defeated? I'm a financial supporter of the New Order & this finance comes directly from the pockets of miners, mission runners & freighter pilots. If being mega rich is classed as defeat, then I don't know what to tell you.
DeleteI wonder how many T1 catalysts it takes to gank a (likely badly fit) Tornado?
DeleteDepends on the DPS counts. If the Tornado is gank fit, you could do it with 1 T2 Catalyst in a 0.7 with Concord pre-spawned elsewhere in the system.
DeleteWhy are only half the comments visible? This clearly half an argument. That's strong reason to be suspicious of the whole thing.
DeleteIf you included your in-game characters name we could look up the killboard links and see the agents you killed. But you didn't so we can't.
ReplyDeleteYou don't need a name for links. I'll get you links :) stand by
DeleteIn other words, they don't actually exist yet.
DeletePossibly Capt Gryphon: http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=477724
DeleteIf not then he's just some random trying to play the meta game (hint: you don't actually log in for good meta gaming).
On an interesting note, Capt Gryphon has recently engaged in AFK mining & was suicide ganked as a result. He has spent most of the last few months sitting in Kamio or Uedama waiting for people to GCC, presumably to fix up his killboard after an embarassing November 2011 Proteus loss. If this is his grand plan to bring down the New Order, then I am sad. I was hoping for a more worthy enemy.
Seems like making assumptions is your forte :)
DeleteI use the same resources available to everyone else when doing a background check. The difference between us is that I actually use them.
DeleteApparently not :)
DeleteCrazy'Ivan and Matthias Mecklenburg would seem to be likely candidates for Anonymous http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=135280&view=pilot_kills&m=12&y=2012, numbers 2 & 3 seem to be making an inordinate amount of killing of new order pilots, looking at most of their corps kills & the pod count they're probably making the most of the new crimewatch system and purposefully hunting outlaws and suspects, tbh can't say I blame them either, wish I'd thought of doing it.
Deleteurl looks weird, was way too long for the comments box, try
Deletehttp://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=135280
I am not "Anonymous." And yes, I enjoy the new crime watch system, although I was hunting criminals (especially killers of auto-piloting pods) in The Citadel and Domain prior to the update. As for the New Order, well, my character is "anti-ganker," but I wholeheartedly support their creative attempt to create a shadow criminal organization within the game mechanics of EVE Online. It makes for good fun--and for more targets on which to practice my fittings and tactics. Cheers! :)
DeleteThe New New Order is a construct that exists only in the most desperate rebel minds. It is a place of bliss to which they retreat whenever another rebel bites the dust; a place where they put in effort, time and ISK to stand up for what they "believe" in (principle, mostly). Ah, wouldn't that be fresh?
ReplyDeleteJames, have you considered running for CSM? Highsec indeed need a savior, all CSMs are from null (sometimes 1-1 from WH or low or some highsec wardeccer).
ReplyDeleteHighsec is mostly known for mining and no one fights so hard for the betterment of miners as you!
I doubt he'd get enough votes. Even some of his own people talk down about him outside of Kamio :) Want screenies?
DeleteYes. While you're at it, how about posting some of your ELITE PVP kills too, slugger.
DeleteYes, I am considering making a run for CSM. When election season nears, I'll be taking a closer look at what a position on the CSM would entail and how I could use it to advance my agenda. It's definitely something that has been on my mind.
DeleteI have something in mind for long time which align with your goal: fighting bot-like behavior: decrease the effectivity of shield/armor resistors and increase their overheated resistance. So the player at the keyboard overheating would have serious advantage over the AFK ship running its modules.
DeleteIf I wasn't also considering running for CSM, I would be glad to help with some sort of agenda. Perhaps I will share it with you if I find I'm unable to devote the required time for it. Time will tell.
DeleteGevlon, you're actually incorrect about the current CSM. Issler Dainze is the carebear-in-chief (and has been conspicuous by her absence in all the bumping threads on the forum). There are also other non-nullsec members.
ReplyDeleteThat said, James would surely get elected. Personally, I think the CSM is a waste of time, money and effort, but I'd happily get involved to get James elected; the tears would be delicious.
I would be happy if james 315 was on the CSM, also welcome to the family Samui :)
ReplyDeleteReading about these stories makes me wanna resub my acc.
ReplyDeleteIf one thing James surely keeps things somewhat intresting.
Well I'll think about it, if I resub I'll surely be joining the New Order.
Awesome. Would be glad to have you.
DeleteJames 315 would get a vote from every one of my accounts.
ReplyDeleteI support the New Order. Even though some of its rules are draconian, it is probably neccesary for returning mining to the domain of players instead of bots. The non-botting miners should be getting their just due for having the most boring job in EVE - it's ridiculous that they get ganked in highsec, have a bad reputation overall as a bunch of botters and on top of that have the single lowest 'endgame' income in EVE. Heck, a 1 day old FW alt could make an equal/higher amount of ISK per hour than a retriever. I really hope that this plan will succeed so that mining will become a respectable (sorta) and profitable profession in terms of ISK/hour.
ReplyDeleteDeath for the botters, ISK for the miners! EVE is a sandbox, we are just too blinded by constraints of ISK and time to realize this most of the time, even though we tout this as one of the main reasons EVE is the best MMO out there. Kudos to James 315 for figuring this out and doing something about it instead of whining on the forums.
I fail to understand why highsec systems controlled by the New Order should be a haven for suicide ganking. If James 315 is indeed trying to protect the miners as he claims, should he not only sanction ganks against bots? Some people suicide gank exhumers with Catalysts for no reasonable motive but simply to take perverse pleasure that they are 'better' then the victim because he fitted his destroyer for 2/10 the price of an exhumer and 'pwnd noobz lol', ignoring the fact that most basic component of his ship was acquired through the same 'pwnd noobz'. Would this not be like amending the law to make citizens killing each other legal?
DeleteI have given the New Order shiny new catalysts made from the slavaged wrecks of rats and miner ships, why do we need you and your old recycled arguments?
DeleteYou need to understand that we are creating an ecosystem here. As miners, you are at the bottom of the pvp food chain. You will always be ganked, targeted, or otherwise attacked. You are plants, you create your own food and the rest of us thrive off you. Please, this isn't an insult, don't wolves love deer?
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