For the past several weeks, rebels have randomly appeared in the ice fields, promising to protect Code violators from the consequences of their actions. It hasn't worked out.
They claim they'll bring in new recruits or call in backup from lowsec and nullsec. So far, nothing.
We've taken corrective action against a lot of miners, but they haven't been transformed into resistance fighters. If they were interested in fighting, they wouldn't be mining in highsec. More often, they purchase a mining license and join the New Order family.
An anti-Order fleet is inbound? We've never heard that one before, except before. In more than six months of enforcing the Code, I have yet to see even one fleet respond to the miners' distress signals.
Why don't the pirates show up when bidden? Surely someone has tried hiring mercenaries against us by now.
I received a private convo invite from an anonymous gentleman who wished to thank me for something I had done. When someone thanks me, I always ask them to be more specific, since I've done so many great things.
Is it possible that the mercenaries and pirates who get hired to fight us simply take the isk and run? Payment in the mercenary business is always upfront, and rarely tied to performance.
By taking a carebear's money and not attacking the New Order as promised, a pirate can take a bold stand for the betterment of highsec. It's an act of courage, one that proves even lowsec pirates can have honour.
James licking the boots of Anonymous - what a sight!
ReplyDeleteBoots?
DeleteDon't you mean anus?
Funny, you never censored anyone else before. But suddenly you censor them?
DeleteI can't wait for miner bumping to be banned :)
Yes, I would like to see their reaction to that as well.
DeleteThey truly aren't interested in honest fights. They're just cyber bullies.
If they really wanted to fight they'd go to low and null, but nah, they'd rather shoot fish in a barrel.
If they get entertainment from that, whatevs.
Something tells me you've never actually been to lowsec.
DeleteGods of New Eden, save us from these tired appeals to ehonor.
DeleteReally? An anon post on a terribad ganking blog tells you all that? Even what areas of New Eden I've been in?
DeleteWow! You're amazing! Can I sleep with you?
>Funny, you never censored anyone else before. But suddenly you censor them?
DeletePay attention (I know that's asking a lot.) Localchat is public, private conversations are not. In some instances, it makes sense to obfuscate the identity of a party. This is especially true when that party is admitting to relieving miners of their ill-gotten ISK through subterfuge, as is the case here.
Why go to Low/Null to shoot ships, when there are plenty in High, and it dosen't have to be shooting fish in a barrel if you just use the tools available to you, like maybe fitting a tank
ReplyDeleteThe best tank in the world doesn't stop against a group of suicide gankers.
DeleteI would love to see the reaction of the New Order if CCP actually devises a solution for us industrial players to be left entirely alone.
I imagine some of you would get a little butthurt.
Why do you deserve to be left alone?
DeleteWhy should CCP implement such a scheme?
A little butthurt? They might quit EVE!!
DeleteImagine the consequence of this. EVE Online losing its griefer image and suddenly EVE Online would get compared to other MMOs. It is as bizarre as rap artists who are starting to sing!
Ok then fit your tank, align up and keep your eyes on local, which is not hard to do. Sure you might get ganked still but not all the time and imagine the crowing you could do in local when avoiding a gank
DeleteBecause they've been rightfully bowing to carebears since 2005. This will merely be one more step, among many more until cyber bullies get a clue.
DeleteNice trolling, you had me there for a bit but "rightfully bowing to carebears" tiped you over the edge. Well played ; )
DeleteDamn, I knew I'd overdo it sooner or later.
Deleteno need to worry about griefer image as long as null exists. moreover CCP would do well to trim down the griefer image and streamline the game. the best place to do so is high sec.
DeleteYa know ... when my main was learning mining ops in Eve University, the e-uni mining fleet required you to be at the keyboard. You would be shot by the FC's drones if you went AFK and refused to respond to eve voice chat.
DeleteHe would also order the fleet to align to the exit gate if a bunch of flashy red folks showed up in local, and would fleet warp us and go to a different system when suspicious scouts started to show up in the belt.
All of this can make you nearly immune to ganking ... but it requires two things:
You have to stay at the keyboard
You have to pay attention to local and what is happening around you.
While I've enjoyed hunting the criminal New Order enforcers during the past few weeks, I have generally been disappointed in the vast majority of reactions to their activities in the various systems in which they have operated. In game, I have made a challenge to myself to thwart, in my own modest fashion, their efforts against high-sec miners--including those in my own corp. Personally, I have had a great time and enjoyed some modicum of success; in the big picture, though, the New Order is succeeding in their shadow criminal campaign.
ReplyDeleteA game can only be made better when more decisions are put toward players, more opportunities to interact (in many different contexts--and not all purely pleasant or convenient) are presented to all parties, and the boundaries of what is possible are pressed and even extended. All EVE players might take a moment to appreciate the fascinating opportunities for creativity and fun that the game provides us; in addition, all of us should bask in the nearly infinite number of subtleties in terms of choice and self-determination that EVE allows all of us to experience and experiment with. These facets of gameplay are inherent in EVE, and the ultimate fact (and, ideally, willingly paid price) of playing the game involves the reality that one's will might not be compatible with other players' wills.
Emergent gameplay is what makes EVE great.
Cheers,
~Matthias
So basically you are trying to make an ethos appeal by hoping CCP see's your "third-party" endorsement begging CCP not to ruin "truly fun gameplay abloo bloo :(."
DeleteFuck off. I pay for Eve to relax and mine. I can't do that? I stop giving CCP money, as will others. Deal with it. CCP is a corporation. they can have their dreams or wishes, but at the end of the day it's about profit. If you affect their profit, it doesn't matter how many third-party endorsements you fake, they will put a stop to it to keep the money in company coffers.
Whatever floats your boat, but your success is entirely imaginary.
DeleteWell it looks like some people are killing these scum bags.
Deletehttp://proveldtariat.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/retribution/
@ matthias
DeleteFor all you entitled whiny carebears, look to Matthias as a fine example of proper EvE gameplay. Although he is opposed to our order, his actions are also a great victory for our message and ethos. He is playing the game. He is taking initiative and although he knows he cannot defeat us, in a very tangible way he wins when he doesn't moan for game changes, but instead adapts to new forms of gameplay. This is indeed what makes emergent gameplay so much fun. Matthias, although we may oppose each other in New Eden, here I salute your gamesmanship. May you never run out of flashy red pods to pop.
@anon 6:59
You sir/madam are the absolute worst kind of entitled whining scum. Do all of New Eden a favor and cancel your sub. Take your "profit motives" argument and shove it, CCP and Eve does not need your ilk to thrive. You basically epitomize everything rotten about entitlement gaming today. CCP's dreams and wishes are second to your sub?? Get over yourself. The New Eden you and your kind want is boring and would cost CCP many more subs than anything I can think of short of closing the servers. Why don't people like you go to any of the other mmo's you've ruined with your selfish entitled moaning "cancel my sub unless..." attitude? Oh thats right, you locusts already sucked all the fun and creativity out of them in your unending quest to "relax and unwind".
BTW, thanks for trammel, we all know how well that worked out.
TL;DR. HTFU or Gtfo of our EvE.
Warmest Regards,
Winchester Steele
Faithful, Loyal Servant of the Father of Hi-Sec and Supreme Protector of Emergent Gameplay James 315.
PRAISE BE UPON HIM!
Blablabla, your kind, blablabla carebear.
DeleteGuess what? Money talks louder. It would be a shame for CCP to loose it :)
Those kills in the link are just random kills. None of them is a Catalyst.
DeleteMost of the gankers are young alts and have a negative sec. status and all they do is to undock as fast as possible, warp into a belt for another gank, warp back and dock up.
This technique is unbeatable unless you sit in the belt at exactly the right time, within the right distance, get a target lock within <5 seconds and then pop a Catalyst.
A Catalyst has got a signature of of 68m, close to 4k eHP (native, w/o any kind of tank) and the gankers then do not just sit there and wait. CONCORD arrives in about 15 seconds. From this you need to subtract your lock time, and what is left is the time you have to do 4k damage. And that is for one Catalyst.
The gankers then use up to 6-7 of them and don't have a problem to bring a couple more.
You will need a fleet of fast locking battlecruisers and battleships with a long range, spread out over the length of an ice belt, and a lot of patience to counter these ganks. Only then can you begin to talk about the possibilities of a success.
In short, the effort to counter these ganks is too high and the miners are simply switching into Procurers and Skiffs.
The technique used in the ganks has made most of the buff to mining ships useless and the Skiff will replace the role of Hulk. It mines worse, but has got a much better tank, and so I don't think that much is going to change. Maybe CCP will do something against this technique, which has rendered the sec. status mechanic as useless.
To the incarnation of Anonymous who lacks civility, a few points to be made in a civil manner...
DeleteI am an EVE player with a single account who enjoys all facets of the game. Do not mistake my very real-life endorsement of the Miner Bumping experiment with any sort of endorsement of their in-game activities while in character; as a high-sec denizen and member of a corporation with mining interests (among other things), I will fight the New Order and will never join them. I am not fake. I am a very real, subscribing player who realizes that he is playing a brilliant sandbox game that thrives on emergent gameplay. (This is hold CCP presents the game; this is how I play the game. Any comments I make in the forum are open to anyone. CCP can read them or ignore them--as can you.)
In-game, my character's record is obviously anti-ganker: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Matthias+Mecklenburg .
To the incarnation of Anonymous who downplays my self-determined measure of success...
I have a powerful imagination and enjoy myself immensely.
Cheers,
~Matthias, the "Fake" "Third-Party" "Endorser" of "Miner Bumping" (as all these words are subject to the application of euphemism and constant redefiniion) :)
Actually, where most of the intelligent anti New-Order (oxymoron I know, how could anyone intelligent do anything besides join the Order) folks get us is when we warp back to station in pods or they catch us at our bookmarks. And they do catch us. Oh and btw, if you bothered to understand the game you profess to play you would see that a sebo'd naga can lock a dessy in 1.6 seconds and volley it @ <75km. Thats just one example, but hey wouldnt want to interrupt your pathetic self victimization with notions of self-defence or accountability.
Delete"I have a powerful imagination and enjoy myself immensely."
DeleteHello Matthias,
I envy you. You are the first player who I have the pleasure of meeting and who can play EVE Online without logging in!!
Your cute sebo Naga has less eHP than a Retriever. What stops the gankers to shoot it down? Nothing. It then only does ~4k damage in one volley and with a fire rate of more than 5s. This isn't enough. The difference in weapon signature (400m) to ship signature (68m) costs you. Plus you are talking railguns versus moving targets.
DeleteBest option (in theory) might be to use a Scorpion with several magneto-metric jammers and to jam the Catalysts. Still, nothing stops the gankers from killing a battleship. And the element of surprise will always be on the gankers' side.
I still don't see how any effort to stop these ganks is going to work. Switching into a Procurer or a Skiff then actually gets the ice mined.
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DeleteVery well: be uncivil, expect it in return.
DeleteNothing could confirm the justice of our Great Cause than the woeful mewling of bedwetters above. My zeal to follow our Noble Code is affirmed. Our final Victory is certain.
Matthias, you say little in local and yet you lose a torrent. I don't think you'll be offended when I say it's a great pleasure to evade you. But your words and actions - the fine sportsmanship, the good manners - are a credit to your Corp and to Eve at large, despite the ingratitude and scorn returned to you by lesser players.
I sincerely hope that one day you'll change your mind and join our Order. I realise that's unlikely, but nevertheless, in the mean time, I wish you the very best in life, as you see Eve for what it truly is. Except when a Knight or Agent are in your sights, of course.
As for the rest, see you in the belts. You can't miss us, because we'll be the last thing you see before the inside of a station.
Dr Tyler
I will have to concur with Matthias on this one. I am new to Eve and at first, I was slightly bored with my mining experience, but the moment I learned about the "human experiment" that the New Order is conducting, I was riveted. Suddenly, I had a purpose. Though my character opposes them, I myself, find the concept enjoyable and delightful. The brilliance of emergent gaming is exactly what this is about. I feel as if people believe that James 315 and his followers must be evil, machiavellian politicos who in real life must be awful human beings. I myself, think he is brilliant. The fact that everyone in the game is responding to his ploy, is a testament to the power of one man's charisma. If you are uncomfortable with emergent gaming, then I would suggest that you move to a different game. The promo of Eve Online says it all...watch it again.
DeleteThank you, James, for bringing this game to life for me, but fair warning...I will attempt to subvert your cause.
The game is afoot.
Talon
To retort regarding the sebo'd Naga. You are aware that a ganking catalyst has an optimal of about 2000 m right? You understand that a a catalyst cant possibly get within range of a naga sitting 100-150km off the undock right? Right? Sorry that you don't understand Eve mechanics. Maybe a little less mewling and afk mining and a little more actual game experience would help?
DeleteTypical belligerent response. How vile...don't you have some nul sec to dirty up?
DeleteNice friend request there, Talon, but what is it that a noob like you has got to lose? Nothing. Come back when you do and then talk. Until then are you a nobody with no ISKs, no assets, no experience and no friends.
DeleteYes, I have no assets and nothing to loose. Clearly you do though, or you wouldn't be posting as Anonymous now would you?
DeleteOff to the Camps with you!
Spare your retorts on the Naga. Come back when you have heard about bookmarks.
Deletenobody tried my suicide ecm burst on small vessel suggestion yet?
DeleteECM burst or smartbombs, whatever you think might work, it means you are not mining any longer. And why did you come to the belt in the first place? Getting you of your game is already a win for the gankers. If you want to shoot space ships then there are better places than high-sec icebelts.
DeleteYou have to be a moron when you think fighting back is of any meaning. If they wanted you to fight back then they would not try to dodge you.
Players who try to fight back are then those who can easily be baited in to a trap, because their anger and need to fight back makes them controllable.
Keep making excuses about why you can't defend your assets or get revenge in a game about defending your assets and getting revenge. Shouldnt you be moaning in CCP's ear though? Thats the common tactic of your type. Maybe we can get another barge buff? Or have it so your account is deleted if you activate an offensive module in hi-sec. Isnt that what you want? The lord knows you have a million excuses as to why you cant use perfectly functioning game tactics to counter us. I should have known better than to try and discuss tactics with a card carrying member of the entitlement crowd.
DeleteCry more. Tears look good on agents. It makes reading here worthwhile.
DeleteI can't even tell which Anonymous is talking at this point. As for the "friend request" comment...your one-upsmanship and attempt at belittling my gaming experience as insignificant in the face of your "great" experience, is an obvious attempt at dismissing my very valid point. Try again.
Delete> it means you are not mining any longer
Deletemy suggestion was to have a suicide alt frigate just off grid, aligned and max velocity, fitted with an ecm burst.
the skill takes just a few minutes to train from a new character and the total frigate and fitting costs far less than a single destroyer.
the plan is to have all the ice miners bunched together in the same area(within about 2km. most ice chunks are quite large and should last for long enough even if everyone is mining the same few), and when enemy catalysts warp in, the suicide alt also warps from offgrid(which is immediate due to zero align and accel time)
the catalysts have pretty short range, and the suicide alt will jam for a radius of 5km for 30 seconds per burst.
of course the miners will be locked up for 30 seconds as well but that should give concord plenty of time to swoop in. if the suicide jammer hits any innocents that aren't fleeted then the jammer will also suffer the wrath of concord but again, the jammer is cheaper than a catalyst
if necessary, multiple suicide jammers could be used at minimal cost relative to the gankers' costs. a single jammer can affect any number of gankers.
another setup could just involve watching the station for when the gankers undock. whatever floats your mining barges
ofc nobody ever listens to me so it'll nevar happan!
also ice miners are invariably afk due to long-ass cycle times.
rofl.
i haven't really thought about it but i don't know why people aren't just using low-secstatus alts to flood the ice fields with concord ships.
maybe ccp could make it so you can't turn off safety in .8 and above? instant ganker nerf: just add water(preferably tears)
Delete> ecm frig idea aka lots of words...
Deleteyou'd have to know the target before hand and we don't know the target until we're in warp
>i haven't really thought about it but i don't know why people aren't just using low-secstatus alts to flood the ice fields with concord ships.
because we move concord after each gank
> maybe ccp could make it so you can't turn off safety in .8 and above? instant ganker nerf: just add water(preferably tears)
Sure that'd be fine... since there's no ice belts in systems 0.8 or higher...
you know if you rebels actually learned how to play the game... oh nevermind o\
>you'd have to know the target before hand and we don't know the target until we're in warp
Deletewhich is why you'd have to bunch up all the miners together(within 2km) so that no matter which one they hit the burst will still be effective
>because we move concord after each gank
why don't they just move them back?
>since there's no ice belts in systems 0.8 or higher...
my point. also i only afk mine asteroid belt so i don't even need to care about minerbumping anyways.
It's hard to address specific responses when everyone posts under the name 'Anonymous'. I encourage everyone to use an alias of some kind - it doesn't necessarily have to be your character name.
DeleteThe ECM burst idea is a poor one - it requires that you be in close proximity to the gankers, and that isn't always possible. Using ECM + tracking disrupt cruisers gives you significant range flexibility.
Sniping tier3 battlecruisers are fragile, but they are nimble and difficult to catch if you keep moving. If you sit in one place, then obviously you'll die.
You can't reasonably expect to protect every miner in a large ice field with only a handful of people. You *can* reasonably expect to protect a small, coordinated handful of miners with a few support ships. Mackinaws can be fit with 36k (45k overheated) EHP against hybrids, while keeping a Ice Harvester Upgrade and Ice Harvester Accelerator rig. Add in a few scythes / ospreys. Retrievers can be fit with 19k EHP while keeping the same lowslot and rig upgrades to ice cycle time. Add in a few exequrors / augorors. Yes, this requires *teamwork*.
If you can't be bothered to use effective teamwork, then don't expect to prevail over a group that does. If you insist on mining no matter what happens around you, then use the Procurer and Skiff.
There, I did your homework for you.
Your home work sucks, because your support ships are targets, too, and you have only made it more interesting for the gankers to shoot you down.
DeleteGet everyone into a Procurer / Skiff, because all you want is to mine and get out of the belt again!
If you have an Orca available then fit one gang link for cycle time and two for more eHP on your fleet. You'll already find Orca pilots in the belts who, if you ask nicely, let you in on their fleets and often have the right gang links fitted.
ermmm ... Mr Ignorant Naga pilot:
DeleteHave a Covops slow boat to you position while cloaked.
When the Covops gets to within 3 kilometers of the naga, make a bookmark, and leave.
Not difficult.
Or we annex all highsec, someone writes an article about it in a gaming magazine, (see Istvaan Shogaatsu etc...), and EVE's subscriptions go up like always, not only that, but the subs that are gained belong to people who actually like to play EVE Online, who actually like to create the kind of content that sells the game in the first place, instead of mindless ice-zombies.
ReplyDeleteAs I understand it, Star Citizen will be along shortly, and you can go mine to your heart's content without having to worry about anyone else trying to play with you.
- Galaxy Pig
Or we could stay in the game we like and send you belligerents out to Star Citizen. Eve isn't just about player created content, it's about fun. We Miners are under no contractual obligation "make content." I pay to mine, not to work.
DeleteLike the previous post stated by Anonymous, it's all about that income baby :)
Eve's undesirables will have no place in SC. Because the sensible players who want to vary their interaction with others will have a slider as to how much PVP they want.
DeleteIt's about time Eve got some competition. Just means better things for everyone.
I will certainly check SC out, if only to get a break from the never ending shit hole that EVE is.
DeleteI think Star Citizen looks cool from a PVP aspect just based solely on manually pilot-able ships with dynamic thrust controls based on location, speed, and damage. Seems like a true PVP dog fight. I can only hope some cool variation gets implemented in EVE or SC doesn't become the cat shit sandbox most these AFK miners want EVE to be.
DeleteIt won't be.
DeleteWe'll have our PvP sliders turned all the way off so we can perfectly ignore the ganking griefing assholes that have their fun with the sliders all the way to full.
SC is a long way off, but it is bad news for EVE. There are hardly any good 3D space simulation MMOs out there. If CCP doesn't clean up with the high-sec griefing, and there is a lot of players in high-sec, then CCP will lose players.
DeleteIt is one thing to play EVE and to live with all the asshats and not having a decent choice. It is another when there is a choice.
If or when SC comes will EVE not only lose players, but the griefers will mostly stay with EVE. EVE will only become more of a shit hole and griefers will grief each other until they got bored and leave, too.
When there is a decent competition then the masses of players will go for the nicer game and not for the filthier one.
I hope this Star Citizen is a mecca of entitlement gameplay, where your wallets can get ever fatter and you interact with noone. Maybe then you whining scum will stop trying to ruin the last great MMO.
ReplyDeleteActually, you're correct.
DeleteStar Citizen will have an offline mode. They'll be able to mine in peace and relax by themselves, never having to risk interaction with other human beings.
You misunderstand again.
DeleteI expect, prepare for, and accept this type of behavior in lowsec and nullsec.
But now all the alliances have lost their nuts and have blued each other, so now they're looking to grief highsec, where behavior like this does. Not. Belong.
End of story.
Casual carebears have slowly been catered to over the past few years. Why? Because there are a LOT of us playing the game. Accept it.
> where behavior like this does. Not. Belong.
DeleteSays who?
Obviously, me.
DeleteAnd I could be anyone. I could be from CCP, lockin' those bumpin' topics.
If it is more closed minded uncreative pathetic themepark whiners like yourself I think we can safely pass.
ReplyDeleteAnd it's more belligerent undesirable filth like you we could use more without. Hopefully the FEMA camps open soon to re-educate your undesirable mind. :)
DeleteUnsatisfied with certain mechanics = must be a themepark player.
DeleteUgh. Undesirables.
Certain mechanics lol?? What you want removed from Eve is it's heart and soul. All so you can "mine in peace." The central tenet of sandbox gameplay is free interaction between players with as little restriction as possible. And that is exactly what your kind seeks to destroy. Trammel anyone?
Delete>What you want removed from Eve is it's heart and soul.
Deleteoh god they're going to remove null sec from eve?
EXACTLY, fellow anon.
DeleteUndesirables such as the New Order want EVERYWHERE to be nullsec.
"EXACTLY, fellow anon.
DeleteUndesirables such as the New Order want EVERYWHERE to be nullsec.
"
NO doesn't go after mission runners. Or other industrialists beyond miners.
Yes, they are too hard for you to get to.
Delete^ Pretty much.
DeleteIf Dust 541 will someday allow us to execute AFK industrialists in highsec, you can expect the Code to be expanded to cover them.
DeleteCan someone who plays eve to relax and mine tell me whats stopping them?
ReplyDeleteBe at the keyboard and watch the screen for 50 minutes while the Mack fills up? You do that, and then come back.
DeleteI'd rather watch Internet porn than stare at local for 50 minutes. But if you don't want us in the belts then have it your way. See where you get your ice and ore from. The ISK we miners don't make now will be made afterwards and with prices twice as high and you get to pay them.
I am already doing it dipshit.
DeleteHow about you do the same? You can chat you can browse internet using the in-game window. Stop fapping while mining.
Sansha in system now to help the New Order gank you :D
You do what? Watch Internet porn? *lol*
DeleteWell, good for you.
i watch chat porn. and you are starring in it :D
DeleteThe Prophecy will be fulfilled.
ReplyDeleteThe Fish-Eyed Man will forsake the lost. The Jester will wash his hands. Highsec will burn.
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Star Citizen will save you? AFKers? Too dramatic. If you played Freelancer back in 2003, you won't say anything like this. The game's based on singleplayer but you can be attacked anywhere and there is NO Concord but weak faction police patrols assist you when rats interrupt your trade lane(a.k.a. warp, in EvE term.) If you play AFK, you'll certainly lose every ship you purchase by no other than NPCs. Furthermore, AFKing itself never work when you mine. You have to aim and shoot roids(which are moving erratically all the way around) manually with turrets and not every roid you destroy yields mining loot.
ReplyDeleteThus, bot-aspirant behavior cannot bring you any profit. Of course, real botting with 3rd party scritps will be a bannable offence according to their EULA, if Mr. C. Roberts has common sense. Never expect you'll be able to AFK mine in that game either.
Plus, I'll be ganking (not even bumping) AFKers on sight if I find you heretics in SC. According to my experience in Freelancer, there is very good chance that the faction police being defeated or evaded if the pilot is skilled enough.
Ah, but carebears will very happily have the PvP slider turned off, so nothing but NPC's can bother us. Thus eliminating the asshole problem in SC.
DeleteThat's fine - by allowing a PvP slider (i.e. by allowing players to avoid engagement), SC denies the possibility of meaningful conflict. Enjoy playing a game with no meaningful multiplayer element.
DeleteFrom my understanding, PvP slider turns off the random PvP encounter during warp, not being scooped when AFKing. Also, if SC balance resembles to that of Freelancer, AFKers will die under NPC rat fire. Since the mechanic encourages 'manual' flight, there is no reason to implement NPC rats as silly as EvE hi-sec.
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