Meet SPIONKOP. Miner. Rebel. Desperately unhappy with the changes we've brought to highsec.
He's become so concerned about the possibility of a bot-free, human-centric highsec that he's seriously considered quitting EVE. But for now, he resists the New Order in any way he can.
SPIONKOP's comments are revealing. This is how carebears think. They want to ban all combat from highsec, and they believe CCP will do it.
SPIONKOP created a corp dedicated to the destruction of the New Order, and he's even made use of the new corp advertisement feature. By his own admission, being a rebel is a "real shitty life".
His own identity is now subsumed by his anti-Order agenda. His bio offers little information about himself, and a lot of angry rants about the New Order.
He's confident that history will prove him right. Unfortunately for SPIONKOP, history is squarely on the side of the New Order. We represent progress, and the march of progress cannot be stopped by any rebel, no matter how angry and frustrated he may be.
SPIONKOP decided to take up arms against us, camping our ice fields in a Tornado. He thought he could sit back and snipe at the Knights of the Order. He was wrong.
I gave the order to attack his Tornado. In barely more than the blink of an eye, its shields were stripped and the ship was destroyed.
...Which was followed by his pod.
SPIONKOP's resistance cost him dearly. He couldn't offer us a "gf" in local, since he was podded far away.
His implants went to the same void to which all rebel equipment is destined.
SPIONKOP lost his ability to get on Concord killmails, but he vowed revenge. His troubled soul offers a lesson to us all: Apart from Order, there is only chaos and despair. His corp advertisement told it true, I'm afraid. May he find peace, wherever he is.
Freighter ganks have slowed down, but not for the reasons he thinks.
ReplyDeleteJustice restored by the new order.
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ReplyDeleteIt seems you have some more fun the days... poor SPIONKOP... but won't loose a single tear... i hate it when somebody used that fool language. But was he near an ice roid? When yes not the best position for a sniper to near at the warp in.^^
ReplyDeleteI think i'm back in 3 days with a shield logi for the miners (could come now, but thinks its better to waite for the last skill).
Greetings from Germany Rokmal
It wasn't really a sniper fit, it was more a f*** stacking penalties fit.
DeleteOkay good to know. I haven't fly a Tornado or a Naga before and know (till today) only the sniper fit.
DeleteThe sniper fit is a lot different from what that guy uses. It's almost a suicide ganking fit, but not quite. It basically excels at nothing.
DeleteOh look...Tubrug1 managed to kill someone without losing his tornado to a Rifter.
ReplyDeleteThey (miners) are so bad, and they don't even realize it.
ReplyDeleteKeep it up, New Order. Make it even more personal and stop focusing on mining ships but focus entirely on individual players.
ReplyDeleteDon't let the pile of harassment petitions be of no consequence to you. You know you want to push the limit!!
Many of James' Agents and Knights have been petitioned in the months that the New Order has existed... and how many of those have resulted in bans?
DeleteZero.
Maybe we should all begin petitioning SPIONKOP for harassment, as well.
DeleteIgnore bans. CCP hardly ever bans players for a first offence. Instead, remember the recent past:
Delete- Goons create a Technetium monopoly. CCP reacts by introducing Alchemy.
- Goons take advantage of faction warfare. CCP declares it an exploit and undoes as much of it as they can.
- Goons join forces with Helicity Boson during the last Hulkageddon. CCP gives mining ships get a major buff.
CCP's actions were the result of the escalation of a dormant, negligible problem by a group of players into one that cannot be ignored.
Ganking creates attention and when CCP looks for ways to increase their revenue then a pile of harassment petitions can be a good reason to change the game in ways you may not like it, and because you never petitioned anything but believe in ganking to change something.
This is why I say to keep at it, because I don't care, and I don't care, because you don't care. And why should I care, right?
I want to see where this all leads to. Seems to me like a train running along the tracks and nobody at the controls. Or maybe there is and he's a joker ...
*posts big wall of text*
Delete"...I don't care...I don't care...why should I care..."
Your brain is a Z80, eh? Those were barely 1000 characters.
Delete\o/ Rebels are powerless to slow the change Highsec has embraced. Glory to the New Order!
ReplyDelete-Pig
If you do not like what is happening you'd better get used to the idea that nothing is going to change no matter what CCP does. People who want to ruin the game for others will continue to do so. No matter what changes CCP makes there will always be a way around it. To me this is nothing more than a group of people who have got it in for CCP and are doing their best to get as many people to quit the game as humanly possible. And even if they get banned it does not matter. All they will do is get someone else to pay for their sub on a different credit card and carry on with another account. Face it CCP you really annoyed a rather large and persuasive group of people to the point where they have decided to do their best to badger and annoy the easiest targets in EVE otherwise know as miners. But not to worry miners. When the ice belts are empty they will adjust the code and move onto other areas of the game that they claim everyone uses bots on or repeats too often for it to be fair. Bye, bye EVE online and bye and therefore bye, bye DUST 514. These people are out to destroy you CCP and there is nothing you can do about it. I wonder what you could have done to annoy such a group? Ban the wrong person did we CCP? Real shame cause you never know give them another 10 years and they may have eventually finished walking in stations and World of Darkness. Not fused about walking in stations but World of Darkness looked promising.
ReplyDeletelol. the ice fields won't be empty they'll just be full of code-compliant afk miners.(possibly afk. who knows..i've developed mining bots sophisticated to detect local/mail/convo chatter for certain keynames -specifically, my name- and send emails with attached screenshots, which, when replied to with certain keywords, enact specific functions -normally a terse response, dock at station and log off- .. and that was 2 years ago.. they've got new remote access software these days and i wouldn't be surprised if all the botters are doing it)
DeleteMy guess is these are all ex-botters who CCP has made regret. After they got a first strike or second strike did they not give up on EVE itself. They already sucked at playing EVE when they used bots and they continue to suck at it. They cannot take revenge at CCP, because they know they will only get more strikes and banned. So they take their revenge at others and at player who they believe are botters like they were, giving them their version of "strike 1" and "strike 2".
DeleteHave a read of the multi page rant on the manifesto link on this site. An interesting read. It starts off with the usual role playing rubbish these guys stick to 90% of the time but by the second to third post it turns quite dark and gives a real look at the mind of James 315. He is no ex-botter. He really just hates miners because he does not feel they play the game they way he wants them to play it. Just another God complex nut job who cannot achieve the status they so desperately seek in the real world so he has to create and live that role in EVE. I just pray he does not and never has worked at any postal service around the world and does not live in the states.
DeleteThis "James must be a failure IRL" argument is most ridiculous, partly due to it's irrelevance, but mostly because the evidence so far points the other way.
DeleteJames' actions (and the actions of many who follow his philosophy) demonstrate initiative, leadership and tact - he has consistently demonstrated that he is aware of the problems around him, and that he is willing to stand up and lead by example in fixing these issues, and do so in an engaging way which empowers the community around him.
I have no doubt that James is both a gentleman and a scholar outside of EVE, and I would guess that he would be a pleasure to work with.
I happen to know that James 315 is a pillar of his community. When he's not saving Highsec and blogging about it, he coaches middle-school league baseball, he's an active member of the PTA, and a volunteer fire-fighter. He adopted a special-needs Haitian child after the earthquake. He buys organic, free-range eggs, and he always gives change to those Salvation Army bell-ringer guys at Christmas.
ReplyDeleteYou know nothing of which you speak, and should probably get your money back for that online Space-Psychology degree.
-Galaxy Pig
I am confused!
DeleteWhat is this community of his you speak of? Are you saying he is a real life carebear? Or is pillar another fancy word for saying that he is a brick?
Ah yes, another full paragraph from someone who couldnt be less interested in this subject, claiming that they are concerned for the ganking mechanics and are afraid we will ruin them by employing them. The art of the carebear double-think, ganking should be possible in theory but should never occur, and anyone who does gank is just a sociopath out to ruin EVE Online and is going to get ganking nerfed.
ReplyDeleteWow, you are a dumb. Ganking will never get nerfed, because ganking isn't a real thing.
DeleteDestroyers are. Destroyers could get nerfed.
Your response is going to be, "No, they will never nerf destroyers, because ..."
Yet people said the same about mining barges. And look at the monstrous buff CCP gave them!
you could nerf ganking if you introduced a "lawsuit" system in which players could incur fiscal penalties on corporations that killed others in high-sec. or a "prison" system in which players whose ships are destroyed by CONCORD while having very low sec status are captured and shipped with all their clones to a prison colony in w-space where the only exit requires you to repair your sec status with a single mining mission.
DeleteBAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHA.....
The problem with that idea is it would cause even more miner outrage when they discover how easily gamed it is.
Delete"you could nerf ganking if you introduced a "lawsuit" system in which players could incur fiscal penalties on corporations that killed others in high-sec. or a "prison" system in which players whose ships are destroyed by CONCORD while having very low sec status are captured and shipped with all their clones to a prison colony in w-space where the only exit requires you to repair your sec status with a single mining mission."
DeleteLOL!
Concord's new penal colony system
Anon 7:06PM " ... Destroyers are. Destroyers could get nerfed."
DeleteAnd then we move into Vexors with drones. About 3 times as much gank DPS at about 3 times the cost.
Heck, we can start regularly targeting Skiffs and Orcas at that point.
No, because if you ever get this far with your plan will you have to pay at least 3 times as much for a Catalyst, because hardly anyone is mining any longer to provide the markets with minerals. You are only biting the hand that feeds you ores. Miners go mining, so you don't have to.
DeleteTo be clear, you are now doubling down on your claim that we are ruining ganking by ganking? Ruining destroyers by flying destroyers/whatever?
ReplyDelete-Pig
lol ... No, not doubling down! I am all over you and I need to continue to lower myself by posting here and to get some thought into your head!!
DeleteAnd, no, not ruining destroyers by flying destroyers. CCP could nerf destroyers, because they are over-used in ganks.
All those 8 high-slots are pretty sweet, right?
Well, wrong, because they are most sweet to gankers! Noobs can do with less high-slots and CCP might give destroyers some more resilience, maybe tanking bonuses. Maybe some e-war or logistics bonuses. There is plenty of room for changes. Suddenly destroyers will sit neatly (and boringly) in line between frigates and cruisers, and thanks to ganking!
This is only one of the scenarios that could happen.
Maybe they just make it impossible to undock in anything but a pot when the sec status is below -5.0. Why all the NPC station managers grant every pilot docking permission regardless of their sec. status is a mystery anyway. Why even request a permission and have it granted when it gets granted every singe time?? Well, there is also room for change.
And more.
I hope you are not mad now, because you likely wanted to have fun on the Internet and did not sign up to an eLearning class.
Is it just me, or is that just a really long way of saying "Gankers are ruining ganking."? "If you continue to gank using the best ship in the game for ganking, it will no longer be good at ganking." How stupid is that?
ReplyDeleteIf we quit using catalysts to gank because we're afraid they will be nerfed, then they might as well have been nerfed right? It would seem we're damned if we do, damned if we don't, so we might as well kill as many code-violating miners as possible while we still can. :)
-Pig
Nerfing destroyers would make them worthless again. They were buffed because frigates could do their job better & after the introduction of the Noctis, destroyers were shelved by the players. Now people are actually using them for many different activities.
DeleteCatalyst's aren't the only tool used for ganking, they just happen to be the most cost-effective tool for singular ganks.
You missed the part where I say that ganking isn't a real thing.
DeleteSpaceships, weapons, CONCORD, timers, etc. - those are real things.
All this can be ruined, but ganking can never be ruined, because it isn't a thing.
I know CCP have been spouting the 'EVE is real' thing for a couple of years, but it really isn't real. Those things you just listed... They're made up.
DeleteIf you so will, ganking is an attitude, which the players brings to the game. Same with scams and spam.
DeleteCCP improved the game to reduce the number of scams and continues to do so, but they will not get rid of it completely, because it is something the players bring into the game and doesn't exists as an actual game element.
Ganking will never die out. Only when it is being done organized and to "have fun" on the cost of random players with almost no chance to fight back, then CCP will eventually step in to balance the fun so that miners can have fun, too.
Be as butthurt over my comments as you like. It just shows how tiny your brains really are when you gank miners, call them out for their "tears" and then start complaining and arguing that it is all not true.
Also, your ADD is showing again.
DeleteMiners; Forever falling back on personal attacks when they run out of factual arguments, which is usually immediately.
DeleteNo, your ADD does show and your response shows I was right.
DeleteIt is just how your life is until one day you grow up.
Lmao! God forbid anything in EVE be "organized and to have fun".
ReplyDelete-Pig
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Even if the destroyers were changed those that can adapt will adapt. Those that can't will continue to mine afk without any thought to a tank and will continue to die.
ReplyDeleteI've heard there are no new order agents in wormhole space. All those grav sites sitting empty and no one in local, something for the afk miners to think about but it does require some acceptance of risk and forward planning.
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