Previously, on MinerBumping... Volatile carebear Mine Teck... Actually, I think he's got this covered. Teck, care to bring everyone back up to speed?
Thank you. Teck's meteoric rise has been an inspiration to many. But he was still focused on his old grudge against the New Order.
Mine Teck was unable to see that he had become a phenomenon, something much larger than himself. Teck's incomprehensible comment about "strawberry" took on a life of its own. (Credit Levarris Hawk for artwork.)
Teck didn't care. He put the New Order on notice. If its leader did not reply to Teck within twenty-three hours, he would join the resistance and make the New Order TeamSpeak server a target for a DDoS attack. The clock was tecking.
Teck also had evidence in his possession which he claimed would prove that not all Agents check the list of mining permits. It's true, of course. I never look through a list of permit-holders; I check their bios instead. That's why it's so important to present one's permit there.
Only one thing was counted in our favor: Teck is among those who believe that the New Order drives up prices.
Having made little progress by ranting in Kamio local, Teck switched briefly to his native tongue. According to Google Translate, he's a bit more fluent in Danish than in English, and repeated his questions about Agents not checking the list.
As the diplomatic situation unravelled, Teck began to fall in with a bad crowd.
Time kept tecking down toward the deadline. Would the New Order's leader make it in time?
Then Teck threatened to expose the location of some of the New Order's redock bookmarks. Granted, redock bookmarks by their nature are well within docking range of stations and are therefore useless. A bluff's a bluff.
At some point, Mine Teck was directed to the SoundCloud recording of his recent outburst. Teck wasn't ashamed. Rather, he saw the recording as further evidence to be used against the New Order if his demands weren't met. Not to harsh Teck's buzz, but I think a few CCP employees have probably already heard the recording. Am I speaking out of turn?
Over time, the resistance became disenchanted with Teck. He was not the secret weapon he claimed.
But nothing could stop the clock. Unless Teck did mean 191 hours instead of 19.
Incredibly, Teck's threats were not taken seriously. He was becoming memefied. What would happen when time ran out? Was this the end of the New Order?
In the end, nothing happened. Teck left Kamio without a word, and has not been seen lately. Still, one never knows what the future holds...
"I'll pick up the Strawberry" would be a great slag phrase for being the warp in fleet member for the gank.
ReplyDeleteHe needs to be banned until he can produce a doctor's letter. This guy could hurt himself.
ReplyDelete*Standing Ovation*
ReplyDeleteStrawberry (Ice) Fields Forever
ReplyDeleteROFL
ReplyDeleteThere is one question which doesn't appear to have been answered.
ReplyDeleteMine Teck said that an agent sold said that he didn't have to change his bio. In the TeamSpeak recording it was stated that the agent had since gone offline and so that couldn't be checked.
So what happened there. Did the agent really say that? Was it just a misunderstanding?
In order to stay on the right side of the GMs, we avoid phrasing that makes it seem as though we are forcing a bio change.
DeleteWe highly recommend adding a simple bio tag though, to avoid any misunderstandings, and prevent friendly fire incidents.
It's also a great way to ID other permit holders, for potential mining operations. Permit holders are a higher class of players, and have more fun in fleets than the bot-aspirants.
Regardless, Mr. Teck does not appear on the Permit Holder listing, which takes precedence over any bio note. His continued ill behavior since would have warranted a permit revocation in any case.
Actually, I'm going to have to correct myself, his name is on the master list. The latter statement still stands though, permits can be revoked due to rude behavior towards gankers.
DeleteIt's a permit holders responsibility to identify themselves as such, be that via bio, local chat, or some other means. Mr. Teck chose not to do that, then proceeded to be rude towards New Order operatives. Had he addressed his issue in a polite manner, we could have resolved this unfortunate incident without embarrassment.
Gallant sends a polite evemail after a friendly fire incident, and gets reimbursed for any losses incurred.
Goofus rants about strawberries.
"Goofus rants about strawberries." +1 Lady Faps
Delete"What in the HELL are you DOING!?"
ReplyDeleteThe New Order sell invalid permits by not emphasising a bio change is required. The fact that New Order agents mis-sell these permits just shows their true value (which is nothing).
ReplyDeleteThe noble cause of the New Order is nothing about any kind of code is it Miss Fappington. It is about having fun ganking people and the code means nothing doesn't it. Now tell the truth :). Its just a social activity and when it is no longer 'fun' we shall wave you goodbye.
REF: http://greedygoblin.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/the-meaning-of-playing-for-fun.html
It's simple, really...the New Order, with its Code, has two goals: having fun and saving the game.
DeleteSo they New Order is now for a fun cuddly game. Eve is meant to be cold, hard and harsh. The 'fun' game the New Order wants is one where they the only carebears, able to gank without consequences. As soon as they have to work to pay for their ships or do any 'work' whatsoever their fun will disappear and so will they.
DeleteSo having fun blowing up miners is carebear-ism? Are you on drugs there?
DeleteThere is a consequence, Bobbins. We all have -10 legal status, and will be attacked by the police whenever we stand still in highsec.
This is merely more tear and petition tanking by a miner, who wants gankers removed from the game for ganking him.
Oh, and quoting Gevlon Goblin as a representative of any group of EvE players is very fail.
DeleteGevlon is a radical individualist, who is trying to find some way to "win" EvE Online. He did the same with WoW and Counterstrike ... he is very competitive, and will not play a game unless he can somehow play to win.
It's good that he is playing on our side ... but if he decides to try to win at some other aspect of EvE, he will go do that instead.
Agent Trask what risk do you actually take? You already know what loses you have before the gank and what do you actually lose a 1 million isk ship that you will be reimbursed for. Ha. You initiate the combat pretty much knowing you'll be successful and as for your -10 security status wow you actually have to move your ships to get to the gank I don't know how the New Order can overcome this huge problem.
DeleteSince I'm very helpful tonight...
Ganking 101: Dealing with Faction Police and Other Busybodies
http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/12/ganking-101-dealing-with-faction-police.html
and your reimbursement policy
http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/12/reimbursement-for-knights-of-order.html
anything else you need help with don't hesitate to ask.
'Oh, and quoting Gevlon Goblin as a representative of any group of EvE players is very fail.'
Deletehttp://jestertrek.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/cannibal.html
I know I can't quote him too. Sigh. Only official New Order propaganda from this blog...
Bobbins, after so much time reading every single Miner Bumping post you should know that the point of the New Order is using the broken high sec carebear mechanics against the carebears themselves. If you think that a ganker or a ganking corp are too safe, that's because the New Order is proving to you that high sec is too safe. You know why the New Order is untouchable and invincible? It's because of High Sec safety mechanics. Remove them, let the carebears fight for their spot in EVE, and then we will all have the game EVE is advertised to be.
DeleteAlso, cold and harsh does not mean "not to have fun", that's ridiculous...it means that EVE is a game for people who have fun by taking risks, winning meaningful fights and even losing their stuff. For risk averse players there are plenty of other MMOs out there. An EVE player deserve the meaningful and adrenalinic kind of fun that EVE is meant to provide.
How do you figure? They're all free KOS because of their security status. Wardeccing is pointless. They're untouchable because they insta undock and warp to their gank, and suicide their target. Without high sec safety measures, miners could be camped 23/7. One small fleet of NO could destroy every miner in the belt with no losses instead of a couple miners before being destroyed.
DeleteWhy hello Bobbins, it's nice to get another mention! If I keep getting this famous, I'm going to need an agent!
DeleteYup, gankiing is about having fun, with some pals, playing EVE Online. That's my definition of fun, and mine alone. Mr. Goblin's definition of fun differs. We disagree on the matter, which is cool, as everyone having different views in this game make it fun and unique. I wish Mr. Goblin all luck in pursuing his definition of fun, as I will pursue mine.
In my definition of fun, if it's work, don't do it. We all have jobs we do in the world, and there's no need to add another one in a video game. I felt Mr. Goblin's ideas sounded like work, and said so. He disagrees.
Now, while everyone's ideas of fun are different, some ideas will typically overlap. This is where we get enjoyable games such as EVE. EVE, at it's core, is spaceships exploding. Everything in EVE is driven by blowing up spaceships. Hunter and hunted, stalking your prey, attacking and counterattacking. Some folks enjoy being the hunted. They get a thrill out of escaping the hunters, doing their thing in spite of the odds. Some of us like being the hunter, stalking our prey, going for the kill, all that jazz. Some of us, (gasp), play both parts!
Would you believe I'm also a miner? I love the game, darting in and out, grabbing my resources to sell, thumbing my nose at the hunters, and tripping my fellow miners so they get eaten instead of me (you don't have to be the fastest antelope in the savannah, just faster than the slowest one).
The problem with EVE, we've been infested by people who DON'T want to see spaceships blow up. They don't want engage in the overlapping "fun" the rest of us signed on for. They hate the hunt. These people are playing THE WRONG GAME. These are the "carebears". It would be much better for these people to go and play something else, that doesn't have the hunt that stresses them out.
EVE is, in the end, an adrenaline junkie game, where losses have meaning, and other people can interact with your play, with or without consent. I don't play CoD and complain about the poor implementation of magic. Don't play EVE and bitch when someone violences your space canoe.
Now, before you whip out "it's a sandbox" as a defense, I recommend you go watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2oxt7Nrxo. I'll quote the relevant portion.
"In chaos theory, there's a concept known as sensitive dependence on initial conditions. most people call it The Butterfly Effect. We call it ***The Sandbox***."
Eve is about consequences, Bobbins. Not risks.
DeleteIf something is risky, you are doing it wrong. Like AFK mining, or not taking enough Cats to destroy that Orca.
And yes, Gevlon Goblin posts on many blogs and on many threads. But he only speaks for himself.
Do your posts on this blog make you a New Order spokesman? I don't think so.
Are you really that stupid, or is this just a lame attempt at propaganda?
'that's because the New Order is proving to you that high sec is too safe'
ReplyDeleteSo they are failing to gank industrials now?
'You know why the New Order is untouchable and invincible?'
Because the hide inside stations only the miners expose themselves to risk. In lowsec they can be equally invincible if they never undock.
'it means that EVE is a game for people who have fun by taking risks, winning meaningful fights and even losing their stuff.'
'by taking risks'
New Order = No risks
'winning meaningful fights '
New Order = Cheap victories against weak industrial ships.
'and even losing their stuff.'
New Order = All loses reimbursed.
"So they are failing to gank industrials now?"
DeleteNo, they are not.
"Because the hide inside stations only the miners expose themselves to risk. In lowsec they can be equally invincible if they never undock."
Ganking while never undocking is an exploit. If you witness this occurring, you should petition it, instead of making claims on blogs without any supporting evidence.
Sorry I replied in the wrong box.
DeleteAnyway thx for confirming highsec is not too safe. As for hiding in stations, mining would be alot safer if they only had to undock for a minute before completing its job wouldn't it. Gankers spend most of their time in stations while miners do not and when gankers are in the station they are invulnerable.
"Anyway thx for confirming highsec is not too safe."
DeleteThanks for confirming you are a liar, as I did no such thing.
"Gankers spend most of their time in stations while miners do not and when gankers are in the station they are invulnerable."
Gankers have to stick in station because of GCC. Are you arguing for the removal of GCC? If you are, everyone in the New Order will agree with you, so that ends the debate there in agreement. If you're not arguing for the removal of GCC, then what is your point in bringing it up? To point out how GCC makes highsec too safe, disproving your earlier point?
You really do not understand what the New Order is about, Bobbins.
DeleteThe New Order is about enforcing the Code of the New order of Halaima.
Nothing else.
Not risk, not "real pvp", not meaningful fights.
Our backers also believe in the Code, and willingly pay for our expenses. Are saying that they cannot spend their ISK as they please? That all ISK expenditures must be fair to highsec miners?
I thought I read in an earlier thread than Mine Teck only paid 90K instead of 90M for his 9 accounts. Does he understand the discrepancy, and did he pay up and is still getting ganked, or has he never paid the correct amount?
ReplyDeleteCarebears always attempt to pigeon-hole us. They simply never considered that the new order could be awesome in every conceivable way.
ReplyDelete-Galaxy Pig
The New Order of Halaima is about enforcing the Code.
DeleteNothing else. Any attempts to pigeon hole us are irrelevant to enforcing the Code, and are therefor fail.
In the end, there is only the Code.
"How do you figure? They're all free KOS because of their security status. Wardeccing is pointless. They're untouchable because they insta undock and warp to their gank, and suicide their target. Without high sec safety measures, miners could be camped 23/7. One small fleet of NO could destroy every miner in the belt with no losses instead of a couple miners before being destroyed."
ReplyDeleteWay to completely miss the point and trump us with the old 'Defenseless Carebear' card.
-Oink
New order is illegitimate because they discriminate against non English speakers.
ReplyDeleteThe code requires that you be polite in local chat, and give honorable gankers a "gf" in local. That you must be able to read and understand the Code, and obey it.
DeleteIf your poor English skills prevent this, then you will continue to be ganked.
Learn the Code. Obey the Code. Get help translating the Code if you cannot understand it.
Enterprise PSI, you left a comment on Dr Tyler's soundcloud page:
ReplyDelete"omg are you John Krasinski from the office? :D"
That's genius! What we need are pictures of Jim and Dwight arguing with each other from The Office, set to Mine Teck's soundcloud!
Curse you, Mine Teck. You dare call yourself Danish? You will pay for putting us in a bad light with the Order!
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