When we think of trade hubs in EVE, we think of systems like Jita, which exist solely for the purpose of buying and selling goods, and for killing people who buy and sell goods. Did you know it's also possible to mine in some trade hub systems? Take Hek, for instance. Not only is it a major traffic center, it's also a 0.5 security system. Mining there is extremely dangerous. If you want to mine in Hek, you should bring a fully-tanked, licensed mining vessel and a full escort.
...Or you can bring an untanked Retriever. Whatever.
After highsec miner Sylvia Ross had her illegal mining operation shut down, she was contacted by Agent Tisiphone Dira. Clearly, Sylvia assumed she was the victim of a random gank. She was about to be educated.
Although Sylvia herself lacked the courage to mine in lowsec, she accused an accomplished PvP'er of being a "coward". In truth, Tisiphone was anything but a bully. She ganked Sylvia for the benefit of new players.
Suddenly, Sylvia attempted to extort Tisiphone for 30 million isk. If she didn't get the money, she would condemn Tisiphone and "the whole EVE". Classic carebear--it's all about the money and never about the experience.
For a moment, Sylvia stopped screaming and began to contemplate the enormity of what she'd just learned about the Code. If highsec had rules, maybe she would need to quit EVE forever. Sylvia had a problem with authority.
The convo was terminated. A bit less than an hour later, Sylvia shot an EVEmail to Agent Tisiphone. She'd been reading the Code. Her message lays forth the tragedy of the highsec miner: If she couldn't mine in highsec, there was no reason to play EVE. So much for the sandbox.
Then Sylvia escalated her petition all the way to the Saviour of Highsec. Naturally, being a carebear, she started off with a lie, claiming her ship had been destroyed for "no reason". Sylvia must have assumed I wouldn't get the full story from my Agent, because the convo shows that Tisiphone was very clear about her reasons for ganking Sylvia. Lying to the Saviour is not a good idea, folks.
Sylvia demanded a refund of 40 million isk and for the "stupid rule", i.e. the Code, to be changed. If I failed to meet her demands, she would quit the game. I now had to choose between the New Halaima Code of Conduct and Sylvia Ross.
When such an ultimatum is presented, the Code always wins.
Sylvia Ross is a highsec villain, but she's a tragic villain. She truly believes there's nothing more to EVE than mining in highsec. She doesn't believe in tank modules or weapons; her only defense is to spew profanity and threaten to quit the game. These days, it's widely held that for some reason it's really, really important for EVE to have as many players as possible. An interesting notion. If you ask me, one carebear like Sylvia Ross is more than enough.
The Code, as always, wins !!!
ReplyDelete- Guybertini
The Code Always Wins!!!!
ReplyDeleteYes Code always WHINES
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DeleteCode ALWAYS WHINES
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DeleteThe code ALWAYS WHINES
DeleteNote how the Carebear's own estimate of her losses is inflated in careful steps; 30m, then 35m, to 40m.
ReplyDeleteShe uses this device to stoke her own rage, which is in danger of cooling. Also, Carebear greed.
Well-handled Tisiphone Dira; briliiantly rendered, Supreme Protector!
It appears that with each additional increment of time she adds in another 5 million ISK of illegal mining proceeds, which she believes she would have collected in the interim if the code enforcement had not occurred.
DeleteThanks Sasha
DeleteNotice also how she feels the need to correct the spelling in my name, yet she lets her own many sins go uncorrected. She looks only at the speck of spacedust in my eye, while ignoring the entire asteroid in hers.
Well, Tisiphone Dira, you are my new target. So now the question becomes what will CCP do to you now that you caused a loss of a subscription? If I was working for CCP, I would start by permabanning certain gankers to send a message to the community that causing subscription losses will not be tolerated. So you should be glad that I do not work for CCP. Look at what happened to Erotica 1 and his "bonus room."
DeleteIf you actually LOOKED at the player's information, they are just over a month old. One month and 4 days to be exact as of this writing. But oh look, the killmail is 4 days ago, so that makes them still a rookie. Hek is ALSO a rookie mission system (unless things have changed since I last checked). Perhaps I should contact the player in-game and tell them about their option of filing a petition. Who knows, this time the charges just might stick to your Teflon ass.
There is only three things a new player can do to make ISK. Do you want to know what those things are? No? Well I will tell you anyways. They are missioning, mining, and hauling. Most new players will not go to lowsec because they are just cannon fodder for the faggots like the CFC, PL, and the multitude of pirates that roam those areas. It's one thing to have an experienced player roam the lawless areas of space. It's quite different to have a rookie do it.
So, go ahead and keep ganking and griefing new players, dumbass. I'm sure that they will leave the game due to frustration. Eventually, the game will fold and we will all need to look for a new game. When that happens, you will have only yourselves to blame.
This is another quality trollific post from your friends at Carebears United.
We are many. We are strong. The code will fall. The code will fail. A code free highsec is worth fighting for. Saving highsec from the savior of highsec, one carebear at a time.
The player is using mining crystals. No one month old newbie uses mining crystals.
DeleteOdd I never missioned, mined, or hauled when I started a year ago. I went with exploration, a few other people I met went with salvaging. But yeah, definitely only 3 things you can do as a newbie.
DeleteAnonymous July 29, 2014 at 11:43 AM, you are full of shit.
DeleteMining Barge:
Spaceship Command 1: Given
Mining Frigate 3: About a day, if that.
Industry 5: About 6 days.
Astrogeology 3: About a day.
Astrogeology:
Mining 4: About a day.
Science 4: About a day.
t2 Strip Miners:
Mining 5: About 6 days.
t1 Mining Crystals:
Reprocessing 4: About a day.
Industry 1: A few minutes
Mining 1: A few minutes
Veldspar/Pyroxeres/Plagioclase/Scordite Ore Processing 3: About 2 days for all 4 skills.
So just adding everything up, being *very* conservative about training time estimates, and taking into account that alot of this equipment has overlapping skill requirements, we can make a rough estimate of 18 days. So yeah, a new player can get into a mining barge, get T2 strip miners, and be able to use mining crystals, all inside of a month.
You forgot about the fitting skills you need to actually make that fit work. It still takes more than a month.
DeleteAlso, you are the worst at trolling.
What? Survey 3 and Mining Upgrades 1? A day at the most? It's still less than one month. Don't believe me? Go look it up yourself. All the skills needed to make that fit work can be trained in less than a month. Now go pound sand.
DeleteLooks like a legal war target to me, doing something silly where they shouldn't be doing it.
ReplyDeleteSo you are saying that an agent of the new order is doing something silly? That corp was formed on 2014.06.06, the loss occurred on 2014.07.11...that agent is known to shed wardecs, since the corp was formed before the loss, and there are no wars in the corps history, the war target hypothesis fails....how is this loss a win for the new order? It is a loss of a not-so-invincible Stabber flown by a new order agent, how is this loss a win?
ReplyDeleteMy god...
ReplyDeleteHe's RIGHT! How with the New Order ever recover from the devastating loss of a single cruiser! Time to pack it in I guess...
It is a win for the new order because agent Kalorned is providing emergent game content for that fleet that attacked him. Getting people to play the game is one of the main goals of the New Order.
ReplyDeletehence, the code always wins. duh
ReplyDeleteYes Code always WHINES. duh duh, duh duh
DeleteAnonymous 4:36
DeleteThat "joke" was already used, as you would know if you actually read the comments :)
- Guybertini
Yes and we know the Code always WHINES. duh duh, duh duh
Deletewins* sorry bad spelling on my part duh duh duh duh
DeleteLots of whining here, doesn't seem to be from the code though.
DeleteCode ALWAYS WHINES
Deletewins* damn did it again
DeleteAnd yes the Code ALWAYS WHINES
Deletewins* wow i'm having a bad spelling day
Delete*whines Yeah, I know.
Deletewins* keep typing to fast to tab back to mining and lookout for code agents
DeleteAnd yes the Code ALWAYS WHINES
Delete*wins
Deletethe code ALWAYS WHINES
DeleteIt's a win because a spaceship exploded.
ReplyDeleteThe Code always wins.
ReplyDeleteAnd for some reason.. the nay-sayers are always Anonymous?
You fear the Code.. and Fear is a path to the Dark side...
Come to the light, child.
Since I heard the chorus, I fear the CODE you re right.
DeleteYes we know the Code ALWAYS WHINES
Deleteand no one is scared of code they are cowards who shoot miners
What will the code agents do when I piss on them?
DeleteProbably whinge and cry like they always do but don't worry if you have a ship with a weapon then they run scared
DeleteWe are anonymous there for we are many you claim we are weak, yet you cry for our names so you can hunt us. Because you fear us, We are anonymous and you fear us for it.
DeleteWe are anonymous, we are many,
Yes we anons can do so much by posting here! :rolleys:
DeleteFor all those interested. There is a Code POS in Penirgman. Planet 9 moon 3, currently researching some catalyst blueprints.
DeleteHow do I know all this? Easy, it's mine....
Feel free to try and do something about it if you want
Loyalamoron already lost a POS and code took down one after Mercs were hired to attack it so thanks for giving us this one - I will hand it to my people :) LOL and that is why code are dumb
DeleteThat song just went triple platinum nation wide. You and many others can't get enough of it.
ReplyDeleteYeah the demented sh*t code song - read other post, everyone agrees it is dog sh*t apart from the brainless idiots like you
DeleteY U so mad bro?
DeleteLOL everyone on here is mad and crying according to code but they don't get we all are taking the P*SS LMAO so bro no one is mad or angry except code because we troll their board LOL
DeleteHey Capt. Dumbass, you might think it a loss, but I think CCP might have a different view on it since it apparently resulted in a subscription loss. The victim was a rookie in a rookie missioning system.
ReplyDeleteYou posted the conversation between me and Tisiphone Dira without my permission. Besides your commments was very offensives towards me. For this reason ill sent a report to Eve organization askiing to declare You and all your organization out of law and ill ask to bann you and all your members from the game. If that dont will do, ill promove a real legal action asking to refund me for the damages for my reputation and honorability.
ReplyDeleteJust so that you know, griefing rookies is against the TOS and the game EULA. Since you are canceling your account, I would also file a complaint with CCP. There are rules against that sort of thing in EvE that are designed to protect new players who know nothing about the game.
DeleteAnd if you do decide to continue playing, do not buy a mining permit. It's a badge of shame and you will get ganked by people like me.
1) Eve online is a game, but behind the toon is a real person with all the rights.
Delete2) What done in game should remain in game and not published on public web site without permission
3) For me all done in the game was over until i discovered i was hardly offended in public in this site
4) I reported all to EVE asking to bann the minerbumping for hard EULA violation.
5) Im ready to promote real legal actions to be refunded for my breaked honorability
Thanks for your post Butthurt, i really appreciated
DeleteSylvia
sigh...
DeleteHek is NOT a starter system...
Killing someone once in a game about blowing up internet spaceships is NOT griefing...
Chat logs are not your property...
Dont waste your time on a petition.
FYI from the EULA
Deletea.Communications
"except for certain information in your account(discussed below), All transmitions by you to the system are NOT PRIVATE. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of privacy regarding communications you make in game"
I WIN +1 INTERNET LAWYER POINT!!
Gosh, did Butthurt Miner just threaten to gank a "rookie"? I think he should just go ahead and ban himself and get it over with.
DeleteLOL Mr Butthurt,
DeleteFirst you vehemently declare that (I'll paraphrase here), "players 1 month and 4 days old should not be ganked as they are rookie players & it's not fair to them & they should be left to play the game as they want in peace or they will leave the game & EvE will die & ganking is bad".
Then in your figurative next breath you threaten same rookie player that if they actually play the game as they choose and purchase a New Order mining permit you'll gank them!!
Hypocrisy much grasshopper?
- Guybertini
I love how butt hurt miner gets upset that Silvia was ganked but then threatens to gank silvia if he doesn't do what he wants. Classic carebear.
DeleteALWAYS PETITION - Karma Balancer was recently BANNED for a month because someone petitioned so do it!!
DeleteSylvia Ross, you have no reputation or 'honorability' to damage.
DeleteAny judge in any court would agree 100%.
I vote these Sylvia Ross comments "Best Minerbumping Comments 2014".
DeleteHey there, my friend, Capt. Dumbass. Just because a ship exploded, doesn't make it a win. It just means that a ship exploded. Now if that Sylvia Ross person follows through with his/her complaint, it's going to be a really sticky mess for James 315 which I definitely hope comes to pass.
ReplyDeleteOhohoho boy, soooo many tears in the comment section...
ReplyDeleteBest. Comment. Thread. EVER.
DeleteALL OF THE TEARS!
Aye...so many tears over a pretty generic Retriever loss. Better she finds out now EVE might not be for her than later after losing a blinged out Mackinaw or mission boat.
DeleteSeems to me all the tears are code, they can't take it that their board is overrun by trolls LMAO
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My favorite part is the bio: Never give up.
ReplyDelete(Until you have to interact with another player in a multiplayer game... Then give up ASAP. And complain. And threaten frivolous lawsuits.)
Anon 8:32,
ReplyDeleteLOL no it won't. People have been petitioning CODE. since James started it. We're still here, and we're not going anywhere.
If you don't want to risk your ship blowing up, I hear the test server is safe.
I do hope they keep up the complaining and whinging, it's high-larious :)
ReplyDeleteKarma Balancer was recently PETITIONED and BANNED for a month - don't let the code lie you - IT WORKS and they know it
ReplyDeleteALWAYS PETITION - Karma Balancer was recently BANNED for a month because someone petitioned so always do it
ReplyDeleteLOL yeah because CCP tells petitioners about action taken against someone they petition. Fail troll is fail.
ReplyDeleteAsk any conference elite if Karma Balancer is banned - like we don't know what goes on, conference elite is full of spies. Loyal said as follows:
ReplyDelete"Has been banned for 30 days.
If you see him in teamspeak tell him to appeal whatever he got banned for to a senior GM"
I heard the spai is B C Chelien, he is an ex-corpie and he would stiff anyone and he was talking about infiltrating code and even passed some stuff to our corp when he joined conference elite. Don't like him personally but credit to him for screwing code
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymus (sic!)
ReplyDelete1) Take the courage to put your name on the post
2) James has violated the rules of the EULA and also has also violated the rules of law defamed by a person in a public site, and this will respond with both CCP that with the law
3)Minerbumping does not represent anything, and only a group of cowards exalted, guided by a cowardly exalted, that do not have the courage to face the players in pvp and infuriates them with newcomers hitting unarmed ships. The rules according to which they say to operate are a bunch of bullshit that they have no value and that they themselves have invented
"If a miner like me can't mine I don't know what to do in Eve". "I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO IN EVE".
ReplyDeleteMan, I feel so pity about this guy. My heart is literally bleeding.
Dear Anonymus
DeleteTake the courage to put your name on the post, dont be afraid i dont bite.
Maybe i dont know what to do..you know..you only hit unarmed ships in hisec because a coward like you and all the minerbumping members dont have courage to face the players in pvp.
Sylvia Ross. Based on your word use and grammar, am I to assume that English is not your first language? Besides, why don't you just sit back, relax, take a draw on a cold one, and laugh at us.
DeleteLaugh at the people here who post pro-code propaganda, and the people like myself who troll and debunk them. I personally find the meta-game to be quite entertaining.
Yes Butthurt, english is not my first Language. I accept your advice, and then this is my last post on this site.
DeleteBye to everyone who love me...and, .....but yes, to others too:))
A permit is only a step in rehabilitation, not a miracle cure.
ReplyDeleteButthurt Miner July 30, 2014 at 4:23 PM,
ReplyDeletePlease link KM for above encounter?
Thanks.
Why, so you can harass my ingame character? I don't think so.
ReplyDelete