The New Order doesn't kill incursion runners, right? Wrong. Yamamoto Osu found this out the hard way. His 1.9 billion isk Machariel went up in smoke when he was caught tapping the isk faucet that is the highsec incursion. If you can believe it, Yamamoto didn't even have a permit! Agents loyalanon, Zane Arnolles, Mildron Klinker, iZaEaRl, Walter Kramer, John E Normus, Jorge Chelien, Lino Crendraven, Elpidio Mileghere, Pedrinho Orlenard, Teodoro Annages, Sophia Soprano, Aloisio Deninard, Szandor Aldent, Pio Tivianne, Modesto Andedare, and Feliciano Antollare gently reminded him of his obligations--which he implicitly agreed to when he entered my territory.
wazupbulldog's cheap little Venture was popped by Agent Super Perforator. The miner lacked a permit. Was this another case of the New Order bullying "new players"? I suppose that depends on what you mean...
...Because this "new player" has been playing EVE for more than 10 years. There are EVE players who haven't even been alive that long. (Most are highsec miners, although I suppose even a 9 year-old child would soon tire of it.)
Holland Zellder strongly believed in the importance of a large cargohold. He wasn't so convinced about the usefulness of a strong tank. With three anti-tanking cargo mods, he was ready to haul around his bulky cargo...
...Three blueprints, worth 4.4 billion isk. Holland lost over 10 billion isk that day, but at least he had plenty of room in his ship. One of the many great things about a New Order mining permit is that it doesn't take up any space. Agents loyalanon, Aaaarrgg, Pod-Goo RepoWoman, John E Normus, Formerly Known AsAC, Rick Therapist, ELicken, Haleuth, 290xanaots, Letifer Ostus, Walter Kramer, Mildron Klinker, Koz Katral, Gunther Cucs, Zombiepilot, Gallie Crendraven, Gohman Patrouette, Quaker Oatmeal, Martyr Oira, Myd'raal, and Brutal Anna were responsible for this lovely kill.
Gold Lotus had a dark secret hidden inside her Mackinaw: Snakes! She probably thought she'd need the extra speed when she left highsec one day. But like many highsec miners we encounter, that day never came. She was fully bot-aspirant by the time Agent Xia Absent found her. With the expensive implants out of the way, Gold Lotus is free to make a fresh start.
I was given this killmail late, but it was worth the wait. Viktor Stalberg was AFK autopiloting in an octuple-anti-tanked industrial ship. What could go wrong? A lot, as it happens. Agent Zasar destroyed the ship, along with its 1.3 billion isk cargo. Included in the cargo were 301 cloaking devices. What was he trying to hide?
SoSB Interstellar corporation is one of the thousands of highsec corps that takes anybody, even new players. According to the corp's website (which is a Google Docs slide show) they don't even demand money from their members. Still, one must wonder if SoSB Interstellar provides the kind of New Player Experience (NPE) that leads to player retention and more money for CCP. What does the corp offer? For one thing, the CEO, Euclideus Pythagoras, gives the miners free Orca bonuses.
Agents Asph Asph and Erical Ph came for the mining op--and stayed for the Orca killmail. Now that's what I call a New Player Experience!
SoSB Interstellar may still need to "perfect" its recruitment policies. On the other hand, they could always cry to CCP for invulnerability. Once awoxing is removed from highsec, I'm sure corps like SoSB Interstellar will be able to teach new players the excitement of AFK mining--without having to worry about things like spaceship combat and guns and explosions (which I'm told new players hate). On the other hand, perhaps what the carebears think new players want is, in fact, yet another myth.
The CODE always wins!
ReplyDeleteOrca awoxed in the kiddie end of the pool! rofl
ReplyDeleteGot one undertanked VG runner, then failed 3 subsequent incursion ganks, and went home and cried. So much for the CODE winning....stick to miner ganking, scrubs.
ReplyDeleteVeers, why dont you try something different in the game other than incursions. You'll probably suck at other aspects of the game, until your willing to learn different skills in the sanbox game.
DeletePlus before you say whats a miner got to say on the sanbox, let me tell you i have done pve, mining, manufacturing, wh, solo null sec mining and even ganking ( thanks to friends like loyal, dj, rigor , ophidia and many more from the NO, helping me explore the sanbox)
A failed gank isn't a loss, its a learning opportunity.
DeleteAnd its precisely this attitude that separates us from the carebears.
We ALWAYS win!
Who says I haven't? I've done missions, incursions, mining (vomit!), trading, lowsec PvP, nullsec fleet PvP, and a host of other activities. I happen to enjoy incursions most of all, for the content, the teamwork, the ISK, and the ability to compete without blowing up ships and spreading anger and discord. Incursions make me happy and rich, and make me enjoy playing the game. Why would I stop now?
DeleteSo incursions make you rich?
DeleteI learned in eve along time ago rich just doent mean the aquiring of wealth. Rich can come in many forms. In my time in eve i have with my main and other alts given billions of isk away.
The only time i have heard anyone complain, is when i have donated isk to the new order. And thats from the carebear types, that don't understsand the sandbox aspect and content aspect of the game that is EVE.
Also the sanbox allows for discord, piracy, ganking and blowing up of ships etc. If you want to progress veers, then players need to adapt to survive.( and i am not saying that you havent adapted) But the carebears, bots etc that want a safe environment to make themself wealthy in isk, without content to the game, in my opinion don't belong to what EVE stands for.
And if CCP management believe catering to these players will keep making CCP loads of RL money, then they the management will kill EVE off ( from the original concept the game was when it started out) And i can say that statement, since i have now played the game with my many accounts for well over 30 years worth of game time between my toons.
So what does veers prove? That suicide ganking isn't risk free. Like all those idiots keep claiming it to be.
DeleteI gritted my teeth and read the slides; all of them. SoSB Interstellar Corporation. Surely you only have to take one look at this bunch of **** and double-click in the opposite direction?
ReplyDeleteAnd as for Euclideus Pythagoras; awoxing's too good for the likes of him.
This KoTW is an excellent learning tool for the like of Veers. We got really bad high haulers, blinged out incurssion runners, PODs that make no sense for a miner, an awoxed CEO, and best off all one of Veers treasured "new players" in a venture.
ReplyDeleteWhy on earth would you want to protect all these losers Veers? Why not enjoy the game the way it's should be played and have some fun at others expense?
I'm not "protecting" anyone, I would just prefer a playstyle that doesn't revolve around achieving pleasure by angering/saddening others. In incursions I can beat other people without blowing up their ships, and destroying months of hard work.
DeleteEve is a spaceship PVP game. People who get angry when their ship explodes should probably be playing something else.
DeleteSmall news flash for you Veers, those months of "hard work" as you put it are just pixels on a screen spawned by clicks. Sure you can be attached to those pixels, but if/when those pixels go bye bye, it's the player who chooses how to react to that. A specific reaction is not caused by one action.
DeleteWhen a player's ship is destroyed, regardless of whether it is by gank, e-honorable duel, or straight up PVP furball; there are multiple possible reactions:
*One can pick themselves up, brush off the dust and continue on while saying, "Oh well," and/or, "Hey, I just learned something," and they can change and adapt to take their new knowledge into account.
*One can simply go on as if it never happened and not adapt. This may or may not lead to them getting more ships destroyed in the future.
*Then you have those that rage in chats. This mind you is a conscious choice, as no one is forcing them to type profanities or various threats on their keyboards or say/scream them into voice comms. This is going to be the one to draw the most attention from anyone around to see or hear it.
Now, one can make the observation and think that the New Order is just out for the tears. But one should take into account that this is just what the blog shows to the public (EVE players or anyone who reads it in general). This isn't the entirety of NO operations, and of course the ones that would draw the most attention is the sperging and raging in chats, it's a tactic common to many RL media outlets, bad news sells. So of course there are those that react in a way I mentioned above, but tears as they are called are a conscious choice by the player, not purely reaction.
Mind you I am not trying to disparage your chosen playstyle. What I'm saying is trying to correct a misinterpretation.
TL;DR: Tears are a byproduct, not the intended results.
Veers, If it's taking months of hard work to get into any of those ships then you are doing something wrong. Of course you were already doing something wrong when hauling around 1.3bil in cov-ops cloaks in a t1 hauler or using a freighter to haul 3 BPC's. If that is your playstyle then you have to accept the fact someone is going blow you up from time to time. Again why defend the stupid and lazy? they contribute almost nothing in eve except great killmails
DeleteVeers Belvar, heroic figure in Highsec dedicated to preserving "Truth, justice, and the American way."
DeleteWith my AK-47
DeleteVeers, that is about as difficult a concept for a code monkey to understand as humor is for a Vulcan....
ReplyDeleteDid you really just make that comparison
DeleteYes
DeleteA talisman omega with a snake set? Is that the most pointless billion isk ever spent?
ReplyDeleteLord Almighty . . . talk about *tears*! Are you going to stop crying sometime this century about how CCP is changing copr mechanics with regards to in-corp combat? It's not going to make it impossible to attack anyone any more in high sec. Here, have a hanky.
ReplyDeleteOh, where to start.... Oh, I know...
ReplyDelete"The Code, at its core, is about truth. The New Order, which upholds the Code, is therefore also about upholding the truth in highsec. This is a valuable service indeed: Highsec is filled with rumors, lies, and myths."
The code, at its core, is about griefing. The NO, is about role play griefing. And yes, highsec is filled with rumor, lies, and myths, all of which are propagated by the buffoon of highsec himself, James 315, and his new order code monkey bot lackies.
Highsec is empire territory. Just because you "claim" it, doesn't mean that your claim is valid. If it is, then explain why when you try to enforce your code, the cops show up? I never really got an answer to that question. And furthermore, who are you to decide how other people play the game? So here we have the true face of code and the new order.
So James, how is that plaid leaking ass coming along?
And speaking of propaganda, I found this: You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villiany
Oh, and your tears have been registered for future enjoyment. If you don't like it, then leave the game. The next thing on the hit list is to remove suicide ganking from the game. Then hopefully people like James 315 and his faggot followers will leave the game.
you really need to relax....it's just a game.
Deletelol u mad bro?
DeleteDon't take it so seriously, James lies as much as the other guy in the highsec.
DeleteMe, mad? Nope. Just trolling.
DeleteI hope I will be the next James 315
ReplyDeleteAFK INCURSION RUNNERS DOWN
DeleteTHE CODE ALWAYS WINS!!! ALWAYS!!!
...Posting from a bakery in Romania...
DeleteRemember!?
yea yea code always wins...
ReplyDeleteblabla
without hate, cynic or sarcasm:
You guys should honestly consider that YOU are the reason for all the hisec-pro-bear buffs lately.
CODE keeps winning. Bears keep trolling. All is right in the world.
ReplyDeleteOnce again, i am not surprised.
ReplyDeleteThat code-monkey go into denial is no surprise.
Again:
You guys should consider that YOU are the reason for all the hisec-pro-bear buffs.
Funny, you want to tell what is good for everyone, but CCP does not care and gives the bears some what the bears want.
:)
code will have the final win in eve and then be gone for good!
How can you say CODE is in denial when they present evidence of their campaign? I think the care bears are the ones in denial
DeleteWhat about that ice? I hear it's not static anymore.
DeleteCapt Starfox... Your like internet explorer now? slow on the news.
DeleteI predict that within 5 years time, suicide ganking will be complete removed from the game. Then CODE will leave. CCP doesn't give a shit about James 315 or code. That's why they are making changes to the game to fuck the griefers. CODE, just leave the game already. Nobody wants you around. The game will be much better without you.
ReplyDeleteI agree! Also, do you know cannibal kane's current alts?
DeleteWell it's obvious to everyone that there isn't anything you are willing to do "in game" to stop us. That would require you to stop grubbing for isk and actually come out and play with other people.
DeleteWe both know that if you are in space with us you will be out-played, out-witted, out-classed, and the chances are very good that you will be made into a kill mail in short order. Best to alt-tab over to the eve-o forums and tell mommy and daddy stories about how you are being bullied.
After "HTFU" CCP mystery bans the last CODE. member and makes ganking obsolete I want you to be honest enough to admit that it wasn't your skill as a player that beat us, it was your never-ending bitching and stupidity in space that did it.
The Code always wins!
High Sec will always be safe as long as CCP keeps banning you socipaths :) We are winning the war that you could never take. Nice try John.
Delete*High Sec will never be safe until CCP bans you guys.
DeleteFTFY
You should really undock more. Dscan some systems and you'll see Skiffs and Procs almost exclusively. Go scan the Orcas in your neighborhood, almost all of them have at least a Damage Control now. Go to the eve-o forums and count all the ridiculous threads about CODE. there.
Be honest, why do you think that is friend?
We've been winning highsec since 2012 m8. I agree with you btw, "HTFU" CCP is your only hope now.
The beatings will continue until we reach full compliance.
Imagine the carebear tears if, after years of bitching to get nerfs to ganking, awoxing, and the like, once the final nerf is in place and carebears everywhere raise their glasses, E1 and friends buy the company and reverse it all in a single expansion dubbed "315."
DeleteAnd who do you think is surprised?
DeleteWasted effort of yours.
The more you try to grief, the more gets nerfed!
Oh and lets not forget: the assets of the banned guys are gone. And before you gonna brag: I know that you park your stuffs on banking chars.
@DJ: congratulations, you upgraded from an ingame criminal to a RL criminal. I hope it's worth it.
DeleteBingo !
Delete@Anonymous chicken (Nov 4 @15:31).
DeleteWhat messed-up country do you live in where it's a crime to circumvent a video game ban?
What the CODE monkeys are doing is the closest thing to "American way" I'v ever seen in eve.
ReplyDeleteHah, that's brilliant!
ReplyDeleteI'm on break starting in a couple of weeks and I have been meaning to give this game a shot. I'll give you a shout nearer the middle of the month. Who else is playing (that I can contact) chaps?
ReplyDeleteDearest Tisi,
ReplyDeleteAnother break!?!
Hugs and kisses,
John
Good to hear your still active DJ!
ReplyDeleteHow sweet!
ReplyDeleteIt was clear to me that all code-monkey say are lies!
But with that you prove, that you guys give a shit on hisec or eve you just want to piss of people in every game you play!
First time posting here... so bear with me... this may be rather long winded...
ReplyDelete1. I am an avid reader of your blog, (the best way to understand an opponent is to pay attention to what they say and more importantly how they say it).
2. I am of the opinion that anyone AFK in space deserves to lose their ship (seems insanely stupid to do that) So all the AFK freighters, miners, others you dispatch are lessons to those people on what not to do next time. I on the other hand also gain benefit from the lesson because you chose to post them.
3. What exactly is a bot-aspirant?
4. What good is a permit if it can be revoked for being AFK in a station? (yes I read other blogs and laugh at them too)
5. While I may not agree with your methods or your ideology. I do have the wisdom and common sense to learn from you (dont have to like the teacher to learn the lesson, just have to pay attention).
6. I have come to the conclusion that those that rant, rave, threaten, or otherwise lose their mind toward you in a confrontational manner feed your egos. So, should I have the misfortune to be unprepared to the point of losing a ship to you, then none of that will happen. I however, may ask questions (because any ship lost isn't really a loss, its an opportunity to learn more).