The moment Agent Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri appeared in local, his arrival was trumpeted by watchful miner Beachura. Thanks to the New Order, formerly AFK miners have begun to pay attention to local. Almost like the miners of lowsec and nullsec--the ones who actually play the game.
Our Agents work more quickly than Beachura could've imagined. Within seconds of the miner's warning message in local, Beachura's own Retriever was in jeopardy. Instead of allowing her ship to be destroyed, Beachura ejected from the mining barge. The "YAGNP" ticker of You Ain't Got No Pancake Mix, Beachura's corp, remains visible.
Agent Salah called off the gank, and the neutral scout--whose name is opsec--boarded the Retriever. I'm happy to report that the Retriever was safely escorted to a nearby station, where it was placed into New Order service.
It was a curious thing, Beachura's decision to allow the Retriever to be captured rather than ganked. She sacrificed an insurance payout and a kill right she'd otherwise have obtained. And our Agents were able to seize the mining barge intact, rather than half its modules. Was this a smart way for a rebel miner to oppose the New Order? Salah sent an EVEmail to Beachura to ask these questions. But Beachura had already blocked Salah. No matter--Agent loyalanon sent a mail of his own.
Beachura explained that she had done it to avoid getting an unsightly loss on her killboard. It was a startling admission: She cared more about killboards than the in-game consequences of her actions. But at least she admitted she wasn't a newbie.
loyalanon invited Beachura and Salah to a convo. Beachura confirmed that her corp's killboard would suffer if it were to be made known that she had lost a mining barge to CODEdot gankers. It didn't matter that she had lost the ship in-game; only the killboard mattered.
loyalanon was also able to get an explanation for why Salah was blocked. Beachura was merely enforcing the EULA as she saw fit.
Midway through the convo, Beachura realized that her admissions could be used to incriminate her. From that point forward, she denied losing a Retriever.
As far as Beachura was concerned, if it didn't happen on the killboard, it didn't happen in the game. The logs showed nothing.
But we know better. A clean killboard doesn't make a clean carebear. Nor are one's crimes against the Code washed away so easily. Beachura's got baggage. Nearly two years ago, she appeared in MinerBumping:
Even back then, she was creating her own version of the EULA in her mind.
...and she was overusing the "block" function. It might not have been on her killboard, but it was on her permanent record in the New Order archives. Such things can only be cleaned up after a payment of 10 million isk and a genuine effort to obey the Code.
Wouldn't it be 30 million by this point? I'm pretty sure attempting to petition the Father of Highsec is a Red Pen violation.
ReplyDeleteCCP gets pissy if you discourage people from petitioning.
DeleteKillboards don't matter
ReplyDeleteFor without the Code's guidance
No miner is clean
Wow, talk about warped priorities.
ReplyDeleteWhy on earth would you pay to play in a multiplayer spaceship blowing up game, when your personal objective is to absolutely never have a record of spaceships blowing up?
Carebears are weird.
It's because, if they have all kills and no losses, that means that when they eventually apply to Pandemic Legion, they can talk about how elite they are and PL will just let them in and not try to troll them in their application thread at all... they'll just be loved and accepted and respected by the oldest players in the game, while not really having to know anything about it. Brilliant strategy huh?
DeleteWhy do you live your life without killing other people when life is all about killing and reproduce?
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DeleteBecause it doesn't have to be a game JUST about blowing up other peoples spaceships. There are plenty of in game activities to do besides sploding other peoples ships.
I would rather take the losses than have the blank kill board or one that is completely green.
DeleteIt means someone thought I was noteworthy enough to take exception to my space pixels, however pathetic they are, and that it was necessary to remove those space pixels from my possession. That's a pretty big thing in my book.
Red in a kill board tells you far more about a person's character than green. It tells you that person's capacity to learn from their mistakes. Were I recruiting, I would be more interested in seeing how someone handles adversity over the number of conquests or the size of the wallet.
From what I have noticed, quite a few people in Eve do not handle adversity very well at all.
Anon 11:09...why don't we all just hold hands and sing kumbaya. Welcome to Eve. This isn't MMO woodstock..and if that's what you're looking for...you're looking in the wrong place.
DeleteIf Beachura was smart enough to set CODE to negative so she'd see him in local, and alert enough to see CODE in system, why not just warp out? Carebears are strange...
ReplyDeleteYes please continue to petition rolling corps to avoid wardecs as an exploit. That would be the ultimate in carebear self ownage if it was made an exploit lol.
ReplyDeleteI'd love to see this happen. Carebears too often fail to see the larger picture, and it would be justice to see them affected by their own ignorance.
DeleteI guess Beachura doesn't realise that whinebears are the reason that re-rolling a corp to avoid a wardec is no longer an exploit?
DeleteAlso, blowing a ship up after someone ejects still produces a killmail (and a lossmail for the ejecting pilot). Maybe he should learn about the game before spouting nonsense and making himself look really silly?
Beachura has previously been awoxed in a skinned Rokh with a full rack of storyline railguns. It's on the killboard so it definitely happened!
ReplyDeletehttps://zkillboard.com/kill/39732953/
Actully dj,
ReplyDeleteTo understand the new order, one needs a phychology degree, since new order is the same as the patients phychologist tend to on a daily basis.
That is a whole new level of cognitive dissonance. Eject to not show a loss mail?
ReplyDeleteHow very effective, since that directly led to the entire incident being reported here, where FAR more people will read it and know about it than if it had just been another loss mail among the dozens a day in high sec.
What would have been known only to a few care bears within a corp and passed around some CODE Agents for giggles, is now immortalized on this blog.
Excellent work, care bear. Really showed them CODE folks there.....bwahahaha
The trouble when you owe alligence to a cause is the cause will always betray you in the end.
ReplyDelete7 year old new player... This sounds a lot like another Veers alt who got into trouble. The facts fit. Veers recycles corp's, Veers is know to afk mine and afk incursion run, and most damning of all... Veers is a really bad troll just as this alt is.
ReplyDeleteI can only present the facts, it's up to you to decide if this is a Veers alt.
Wow.
ReplyDeleteBeachura.
That's a blast from the past, would have thought the stupid wanker had quit the game by now.
IIRC ol' Beach got permabanned off the forums, damn near got permabanned from the game, and is well known for being one of the premier asshats in EvE. Not as bad as Xenuria, mind you, but still......
And yeah, ejecting from a boat to 'prevent' a lossmail is classic Beach.
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Mike Adoulin
Perma banned from the forums? I don't think so. Maybe if neck-beards like you hadn't been banned yourself you wouldn't be throwing false accusations about?
DeleteI distinctly remember you receiving a couple of warnings mike, no wonder you don't play anymore.
Hi Guys, I'm an idiot who left the game ages ago. I like insulting people and getting rejected. :)
Delete- Mike Adoulin
Don't worry mike, being alone due to your awful personality must be difficult for you. We're here if you need any help.
DeleteI was thinking on this post last night and i think i might have figured out why the miner ejected from her ship. Normaly an agent targets and fires on a ship, and dosent expect to see the pod till right as the ship is exploding, so its posible the miner knew she was going to loose her barge, and ejected so she could have the extra two or three seconds to escape. As far as i know, no agents fit their ships with more then one warp scrambler, and it the agent was warp scrambling her barge, he wouldent have had time to warp scram her pod also. This is entirely possible, when you consider there was no pod killing (as far as i understand anyway), and she could have had a head full of expensive implants she rathered to save over the barge. This make sense to anyone else?
ReplyDeleteJeff Arbosa
Re: Ejected to save the pod:
DeleteHe may have thought so, but I usually am prepared to lock a pod as soon as it gets displayed on the overview (the old "hold CTRL, hover mouse below last entry" method) and have two seboes. No second scram required, as shooting with my blaster as soon as target is acquired does it usually.
Sure, that is with two characters, yet, claiming "The gankers normally are not prepared" is wrong.
And if he is even remotely competent, he will get his pod safe even after having the ship blown up. This is hisec....
Actually, I have a psychology degree...and I assure you, it's not the Code people who need to be understood. It's a simple matter or predator and prey. If you make yourself easy prey, what do you expect. You are playing a game about space combat. If you need a psychology degree to understand that...well... Psychology has nothing to do with the game..in fact, most of the people who are the ones you call sociopaths in the game, are the complete opposite in rl..and vice-versa for those who are supposedly the "good guys". People in a fantasy environment tend to be what they aren't in rl..so what does that say about you? You know what...I don't want to know because I don't care. It's a game...get over it. :)
ReplyDeleteThey certainly are, and it wasn't even me who wrote the original comment! code are going to die now anyway, james doesn't even play anymore.
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