Agent Alana Charen-Teng had a less-than-satisfactory encounter with Eddie Neutron, a highsec miner. She reported this to Straider, the CEO of Eddie's corp.
For some reason, Eddie had been in a very bad mood on that particular occasion. He skipped the customary Hitler comparisons and told Alana she reminded him of Jane Goodall. An unusual comparison, but maybe there was something to it...
After all, Eddie was going ape in local. Totally bananas, in fact.
Agent AeleDeux filed an additional report with Eddie's CEO. AeleDeux was the Agent on the spot. He had ganked Eddie's fail-fit Covetor and AFK pod.
AeleDeux provided additional context about the interaction. Before Alana reported to the scene, Eddie was already making a monkey out of himself. AeleDeux commanded the miner to calm down--but he didn't!
CEOs always want to skip to the bottom line. AeleDeux presented Eddie's CEO with a three-point plan to fix the problem.
The CEO wasn't online at the time, but Eddie was. When he received copies of the EVEmails being sent to his CEO, he wasn't happy. He behaved like a typical carebear. How would the CEO react? What kind of corporation was this?
Eddie belonged to Black Sun Brethren. According to the corporation's website, they only operate in highsec, and they only do boring stuff. Like other boring PvE-only highsec corps, they deliberately target new EVE players for recruitment. That's right, some players' first experience with this game is hanging out with Eddie Neutron.
On the other hand, Black Sun Brethren is also interested in recruiting old players. They assist in "all areas and ways". Good thing they have a focus.
But back to the business at hand. After several hours, the CEO, Straider, logged in and reviewed all of the Eddie info. Then he made his decision.
Straider was defiant. He stood by Eddie and threatened to declare "ware" on anyone who would gank his corp members. He supported his corp member instead of embracing the Code. It was an act of supreme disloyalty. In highsec, the New Order comes first. Family > corp.
AeleDeux acknowledged the EVEmail and offered the Black Sun Brethren corp a special deal on mining permits: Only 10 million isk per member!
When Eddie found out about AeleDeux's special offer, he was furious. Still a bit miffed about his lost Covetor and implants, he expressed his desire to see AeleDeux hanged on an in-game tree.
Normally, highsec CEOs are quick to throw their mouthiest members under the bus when an Agent demands it. Straider's disloyalty is unusual. Nevertheless, this matter is still ongoing.
"Still a bit miffed about his lost Covetor and implants, he expressed his desire to see AeleDeux hanged on an in-game tree."
ReplyDeleteLost it. That's some good understated humor.
"A Person such as yourself, should be hung on a tree, displayed for all to see. As a reminder of how one should not be."
ReplyDeleteAnd there are those who tell us that it's New Order Agents who are the ones who are the ones who advocate "unspeakable acts."
Here, we have a carebear literally advocating lynching, in that old southern style.
I mean do I really need to go on here? Any carebears feeling the need to defend this guy? Hell, any carebears want to attack this guy?
and his " extremist" views are equally as abhorrent as yours ming.
Deletejust that statement alone should get him removed from eve.
can you name one time Ming has advocated the death of another player outside of game?
Deletethats not what i said .
DeleteA simple no would have sufficed
DeleteI'm trying to figure out, just who do you think you're fooling with this runaround, Anon@11:15? You say we're abhorrent, because our views are just as bad as the Nazis. You say our views are just as bad as the Nazis, because we use a word they used once, therefore we must have the same values. You say since we have the same values, we must also support genocide, racial discrimination, or what have you. We ask you to point out where we ever say that we tolerate support for genocide, racial discrimination, etc and you respond with "thats not what i said".
DeleteNow I doubt that you think you can convince us that we're secretly Nazis. And I doubt that you yourself actually believe that the people who beat you in a video game must therefore be Nazis. So who is this whole thing aimed at? Your fellow carebears? You must have an even lower opinion of them than we do, if you believe that just by repeating "Nazi" frequently enough, you're going to be able to convince them that an opposing team in a video game is actually, literally, real-world Nazis.
But if putting on this crass display helps you cope with the loss of your mining barge, carry on. If nothing else, you help us make the point that excessive mining is harmful to one's mental health and moral fiber. I mean here you are, desecrating the memory of a real tragedy over a loss in a video game. That is a real thing you are really doing. Unbelievable.
and once again you completely (deliberately miss read everything ) go figure.
Deletei'm not trying to fool anyone it was your best mate ming who first used the word "subhuman" in this blog not i. ( and they used it more than once just like you lot are).
never once have i said you support genocide, or racism what i said was you express sentiments that are the sentiments of those who commited genocide it's that "compare" and "contrast: thing that ming likes to do so much.
and if you notice i was actually agreeing that what that particular guy advocating hanging people from a tree said was abhorrent just like ming (or anyone else for that matter) calling real people "it" or "subhuman" is abhorrent.
i don't have to convince you of anything,
you use those words and call it "roleplay" it's not.
that is something far worse than "pretending" to be the bad guy ( which i believed you were doing until those words appeared) you people are genuinely bad people it seems.
you don't beat me at anything, though you seem to think you do (because you lump everyone except code into the same pot) i don't play this "game" in high sec.
i don't believe you are anything but a bunch of hateful,spiteful man children who get a kick out of doing everything you can to cause as much bad feeling and anger, and even hatred as you can in game and out.(well done by the way)
then try and dress it up as "roleplay".
and the only crassness i see is yours with your constant attempts to twist everything anybody says to make yourselves look and feel good. (you are goin g to have to work real hard to achieve this by the way).
and the desecration of anyones memory is all yours, using the very words that lead to that tragedy again is all you, not once have i used them you lot have.
repeatedly.
now thats ...unbelievable.
Do you believe that calling for the real-life death of opponents in a video game (which is what Eddie Neutron does), and looking down on people like Eddie Neutron (which is what Ming and every other decent human being does) are equivalent? Since you're going to say "thats not what i said", I'll skip to the follow-up question: since advocating real-life murder is completely different from showing contempt for contemptible people, why did you use a token condemnation of the former to go back to ranting about the latter?
DeleteHi, Anon,
DeleteIn regards to the "subhuman" comments that occasionally appear in this blog, we are referring to the bots and bot-aspirants who, by definition, are either not human characters in the game or are human characters who are attempting themselves to be less human. The bot-aspirants actively seek being less human-like (subhuman if you will.) We find this pitiable and against nature. We seek to help them through the teachings of the New Order, not persecute them for it.
Hope this clears some things up.
where Maria said "You say our views are just as bad as the Nazis, because we use a word they used once, therefore we must have the same values."
Deleteyou said "i'm not trying to fool anyone it was your best mate ming who first used the word "subhuman" in this blog not i"
Essentially you are agreeing with what Maria said that the use of the word makes someone an extremist. Also when Maria used the word once its wasn't in the numerical sense it was more like once upon a time.
ok more spin i see.
Deletefirst of all
and if you notice i was actually agreeing that what that particular guy advocating hanging people from a tree said was abhorrent just like ming (or anyone else for that matter) calling real people "it" or "subhuman" is abhorrent.
it's the "or anyone else for that matter " bit you need to pay attention too in that statement.
calling someone "subhuman" (yes even if your "pretending" in a video game ) is wrong, period. i don't care who you are, saying you think someone should be hung from a tree is equally as wrong. which is actually what i said in the first place.
"looking down" on people in a video game is at best childish ( to say the least)
expressing that "looking down" by calling people subhuman and "it" is once again wrong.
there was clearly no "advocation " of real life murder ( by me at least)
and if you truly think someone who chooses to do something in a different way than you in a "game" ..."contemptible" then you really do have problems.
@290xanaots
Deletethere was no mention of bots in the "subhuman" references made by your friends at all
there was this however this
Ming TsoApril 6, 2015 at 2:45 PM
@Anon2:24Well, as they say, "the door swings both ways."
If you want to stop being referred to as subhuman, then stop being subhuman!
@Denny Crane
Deletethere was no agreeing.
i used the words "express extremist sentiments".(thats what they expressed when calling someone (a real human being i may add) "subhuman"
and the once upon a time thing makes absolutely no difference.
I'm sorry but you live in this world where someone who acts a certain way in a video game must be the exact same in real life which is just not true. Video games are first and foremost a distraction from reality so it's understandable that you can act differently in a video game. Also making out that calling someone in a game subhuman and inciting the real life death of someone through a game are one in the same thing is just plain dumb.
DeleteI'm going to have to at least partially agree with this particular carebear (May BOB have mercy on my soul). Ming did open the flood gates to this.
DeleteI do get what he meant by the term "sub-human" and "it" (Bots and AFK players can't by definition be called human as the computer is actually playing the game and not an actual human being).
That being said, someone with the Jewish faith or had family with someone who suffered or was killed by the Nazi's could be offended by the word. Kind of like when someone is called a "nigger" whether or not the term is used correctly or offensively could be offended, especially if the target of the word suffered or know someone who has suffered from racism.
Again, I know what you meant by using the word. Just providing some insight on why someone might find it offensive and extremist.
~ Asia Leigh
ps one more thing maria, if you knew that wasn't what i said why ask the question in the first place?
DeleteThe reason I asked the question:
Delete"Do you believe that calling for the real-life death of opponents in a video game (which is what Eddie Neutron does), and looking down on people like Eddie Neutron (which is what Ming and every other decent human being does) are equivalent?"
...is because you continue saying things like:
"and if you notice i was actually agreeing that what that particular guy advocating hanging people from a tree said was abhorrent just like ming (or anyone else for that matter) calling real people "it" or "subhuman" is abhorrent."
You are treating a statement of intended and desired real world violence as being equivalent to a statement of disdain. That's insane. It is perfectly acceptable for you to say that you do not like Ming looking down on you and your class of players, but then you start acting as if his looking down upon you is just as bad as when someone says they want to kill someone else in real life. You know that these two things are nowhere near equivalent. You know that Eddie Neutron's behavior, and that of countless other carebears like him, is far worse than Ming (or any Agent) saying they consider themselves superior to Eddie and his ilk. Yet you keep on saying both these things are just as bad. So I keep on calling you out on it. And you keep on backtracking, saying "no i didn't say that", then saying it again in your next post.
I figure as long as you keep on being hypocritical in this fashion, I'll keep on pointing it out. Perhaps someday you'll feel embarrassed enough to stop.
there is no hypocrisy in saying it is wrong calling someone "subhuman" or referring to a human being as "it" where is the hypocrisy there ?
Deletehow many times do i have to repeat that saying you want to hang someone from a tree is every bit as abhorrent as expressing the fact you think someone is "subhuman" (if you say it you must obviously think it) the step from verbal violence to very real acts of physical violence is not a very big one i can assure you.(you only have to read your history to see this).
ming did not simply say he considered himself "superior" he said he considered another human being less than human thats what he said
now you obviously do not see this as wrong ( i don't understand this )
but i do.
the hypocrisy is in your defence of something that is indefencable.
it is, was, and always will be wrong to call a human being "subhuman"
even under the guise of "roleplay".
also you seem to keep implying that i defend these "carebears" when they say similar things to you lot i do not , they are every bit as wrong as you lot are.
clear enough for you?
@Denny Crane
Deleteso by your logic then you can say anything you like (however vile, cruel, or offensive) and it's ok because your only "playing" ? or "roleplaying" even if what you say causes harm or pain to another individual.
do you really believe that ? really?
in the same way you believe wanting to lynch someone is the same as calling someone a name.
Deleteif you think calling someone "subhuman " with all the links that word had and to some still has to one of the worst crimes in history is just calling someone a "name" then i feel truly sorry for you.
DeleteOmg. That anon is subhuman, in that his brain cannot function like a normal human.
DeleteHell, everyone was thinking it, subhuman.
I notice you aoided answering wther you think inciting real life death and using a word are one in the same. Typical and it's you I feel sorry for buddy
Deletehow many times do i have to repeat that saying you want to hang someone from a tree is every bit as abhorrent as expressing the fact you think someone is "subhuman"
Delete0nce again i repeat myself for you. i cannot make it any clearer
and once again to some it's not just a word .... but i guess the old saying "you can't fix stupid " is true so i'm not going to try anymore go ahead "stupid".
@anon 3.48am
Deleteand they say carebears are sheep. look at you jumping on the bandwagon just like the rest of them lmao baaahh baaahh
@Anon2:55
DeleteNo.
Expressing the fact that someone is "subhuman" is a way of saying "You are less than a human."
Expressing the opinion that someone should be lynched is a way of saying "I wish for your death."
At no point is calling someone "subhuman" wishing for their death. The context is entirely provided by you, as an futile attempt to slander the unimpeachable character of Agent of the New Order.
Your piteous "name calling" has no effect on us. But it certainly goes to show that you equate disapproval with murder. Which is the symptom that the New Order, through the Code, is attempting to treat.
anon believes lynching someone and calling them a name are the same thing. wow
Deleteming
Deletei am well aware of what it means (thats why it's not just a "word")
and it means so much more than "disapproval" too ( we are obviously of a different generation) and again i repeat myself the real life threats of the carebears are abhorrent too (and should get them removed from the game and\or arrested)
Just as the night rises against the day, the light and dark are in eternal conflict. So too, is the subhuman the greatest enemy of the dominant species on earth, mankind. The subhuman is a biological creature, crafted by nature, which has hands, legs, eyes and mouth, even the semblance of a brain. Nevertheless, this terrible creature is only a partial human being.
Although it has features similar to a human, the subhuman is lower on the spiritual and psychological scale than any animal. Inside of this creature lies wild and unrestrained passions: an incessant need to destroy, filled with the most primitive desires, chaos and coldhearted villainy.
A subhuman and nothing more!
Not all of those who appear human are in fact so. Woe to him who forgets it!
Mulattoes and Finn-Asian barbarians, Gipsies and black skin savages all make up this modern underworld of subhumans that is always headed by the appearance of the eternal Jew.[3]
SS-Obersturmführer Ludwig Pröscholdt,
now do you see why it is so offensive to use "that" word at all ...ever (never mind in a game) if you don't then i am sorry but i will never understand .
you're*
DeleteAnon. Take a step back for a moment and read your posts from a 3rd person point of view. Your hypocritical rantings only point to you being the very thing you claim to be against. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, you, me, the next guy. Making threats is a line that should not be crossed. Comparing what someone thinks of someone else and the blatant, racial, and hate inspired threats and rhetoric spewed by Mr. Neutron is just ludicrous. Eve is a game. It is fantasy. If someone is unable to accept fantasy losses or fantasy role play, they need to do something else. I do not "hate" someone because I blow them up..I do not blow them up because I "hate" them. It is what the game is all about and if you cannot accept this, you are playing the wrong game. To assume because someone kills pixels in a game they must be some kind of murderer or sociopath is ridiculous. THAT'S WHAT THE GAME IS ABOUT. Htfu or stfu..it's really that simple. I cannot believe that in a game that is 95% men that there are so many whiny b*****s. It's rather pathetic tbh. You play a game to have fun..if you're not having fun..play something else or deal with it. You play how you want, so does code. If you don't like it, do something about it or move on. Nothing personal, I've just heard so much crying and whining about it for over 2 years. If you don't like Hockey because it's too violent, why would you fo to a hockey game..much less play it. It's the same for Eve. Now I digress because I'm just as tired of saying it as I am of hearing it. :) xoxox
Delete@ Kaely
DeleteIs it that time of the month already for you?
Talk about rage over a game, when you say others should not rage over it.
#Sillycommentskaelydoes
Oh and its "Go to" not "fo to", just saying
Eddie Neutron, great job Sir, keep up the good work ! We are with you and stand up until CODE's end soon !
ReplyDeleteCODE is already dead. Don't you see the killboards ? HighSec is a calm country now.
DeleteI know but I like to troll CODE's idiots.... it's too funny to read repllies.
DeleteAnom @ 8:09, so you do support racism?
Delete>'we are with you'
Delete>replies as anon
Just sent to Eddie Neutron 200M ISK. Hope it will help.
DeleteAre you sure your three-member corp can spare the isk, Rebul?
DeleteGreat killboard so I think he can pay :)
DeleteNo, but if Straider decs you code monkeys, I'll assist his corp,,,
ReplyDeleteIf Straider decs someone, you won't be able to assist Straider. Only 'victims' can have allies, not aggressors. If you want to assist Straider, you'll have to dec the "code monkeys" yourself. No need to wait for Straider. You can dec CODEdot now and have your righteous revenge. Do eet. Do eet. I double dog dare you to do it.
DeleteRebel corps pay for their own wardecs! Details at 11!
DeleteNo you wont
DeleteMalcolm, come back, we need you! John has gone mad with power! MAD I TELLZ YA!
DeleteAu contraire, malcom, your leet PVP skills are really showing on this one...most code monkeys are -10 sec status...I can assist them and without a decing you....
Deleteby whoring on concord kill mails?? yeah that'll teach em
DeleteI can shoot a -10 sec status before he shoots, no need to wait for Concord....
DeleteDon't. Be too sure of that, you don't. know me or what I will do..
DeleteYou are a bear, seriously... wtf are you going to do apart from talk big. Rhetorical Question.
DeleteLOL. Oooooo..threats and epeen waving. You guys make me laugh. There has never been an effective counter to Code and there never will be...unless your plan is to try to drown them with your tears. :P
DeleteOh Noes! Will the latest wave or racist tears wash the New Order away? Is this the end? Stay tuned!
ReplyDeleteStay classy, miners!
ReplyDeleteThe New Order of Hitler has deemed this article made up. Bow to your superiors fools.
ReplyDeleteMiner, please calm down
Delete~ Asia Leigh
Another CODE. Bot Aspirant detected!
Deletemeh seems made up
ReplyDeleteYep, all made up. I like to ignore the facts as well.
Deletethe "momma's basement dwelling neckbeard" club, sounds like a place code would fit right in
ReplyDelete*facepalm* why do people bother to argue with code after they get ganked (or an attempt is made)? You simply put any that contact you on ignore and move on, denying code any tears and causing them to have done nothing more then killed a single ship of yours. You learn to look out for them, probaly avoid any more ganks, and life goes on for you. At the same time you annoy code enough by not replying to them that they move on to another target. Its so simple and yet so few do this.
ReplyDeleteActually most of them follow your advice, the ones who don't end up on the blog
DeleteYou could just give them a 'gf' in local and politely decline to buy a permit. I don't think blocking them is necessary. I don't think you can be safe from CODE enforcement actions without buying a permit, but if you show you can handle the loss of the ship and be a good sport about it, you'll move down on their priority list.
DeleteI don't even have a permit and I was able to talk to some of their agents without a problem as one person in local to another. Agents with a decent impression of you are less likely to want to gank you in the first place so, in that way, blocking them would be counter productive.
Mmmmmmmm, carebear tearz! These have a touch of despration mixed with some impotence, thanks CODE.
ReplyDeleteLost it. Tears/my sides/head hurts a little
Deletegf
Hmm Eddie Neutron is a rap star i haven't heard about? He's got a flow yo! Spear throwin No shoes wearin mudhut livin... Just YO!
ReplyDeleteJudging from his prejudices obvious in his writing, I'd say that Eddie is Jimmy Neutron's drunken, racist uncle from Alabama.
DeleteBecause the carebears are the regular jocks of the playground huh.
ReplyDeleteThe way they talk, they're more in line with the overseers of the plantation fields.
ReplyDeleteExcept without having a single person lower than them on the totem pole. Powerless slaveowners, it's the perfect storm of hateful racists.
ReplyDeleteThe way they talk, they're more in line with the overseers of the plantation fields.
ReplyDeletesaid the the guy who calls human beings "it" and "subhuman"
Except without having a single person lower than them on the totem pole. Powerless slaveowners, it's the perfect storm of hateful racists.
said the meek follower of the first guy.
Because the carebears are the regular jocks of the playground huh
said some code sycophant.
yes I did say it, it's clearly written for people to see. I'm not sure what your point was there
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