Previously, on MinerBumping... Agent Spryt3 and friends destroyed an unlicensed Orca. The pilot, Altier Darkblood, refused to purchase a mining permit. Instead, he accused Spryt3 of having no honour. Confident that his Code enforcement action had been conducted according to protocol, Spryt3 brought in Agent loyalanon to adjudicate the matter.
Altier claimed his issue was that our Agents weren't following the Code. However, loyalanon suspected that Altier's real problem was bitterness over losing a round of PvP.
As an honourable Orca pilot, Altier cared about honour. He wanted the New Order to admit that it was lacking in honour. Our Agents could've indulged him--but the New Order doesn't lie.
At the first sign of resistance to being paid reimbursement, Altier accused our Agents of being dishonourable.
The Orca pilot began to say things that couldn't easily be taken back. loyalanon tried to pump the brakes.
Under the circumstances, loyalanon considered Altier's reimbursement request to be formally withdrawn. Spryt3 emerged from the controversy with his perfect record fully intact.
The rebels and Anti-Gankers would never admit this, but our Agents are known for being healthy in mind, body, and soul. Whether this is the result or the cause of obeying the Code, I leave for the philosophers to debate.
Altier Darkblood continued to follow what was, in his own mind, a code of honour. You see? This is why we require miners to follow our Code instead of letting them make up their own. You'd get a lot of really low-quality codes otherwise.
The carebear persisted. Was he really an honourable Orca pilot? It's a lot easier to buy a 10 million isk permit than to have honour, and he wasn't even willing to do that.
loyalanon gave the miner some good advice. Our Agent doubted he'd take it, but at least the effort had been made.
Altier Darkblood threatened to quit EVE. loyalanon once again told him to calm down--possibly saving CCP a subscriber in the process. Does that count as a player retention service?
After the convo, CODE. formally declared war against the miner's corporation; there was just too great a risk that there was another Altier among them. Altier quickly put two and two together and realized that his conduct was the cause of the wardec.
Honour is important in EVE, but honour is a matter of perspective. To a miner who rejects the Code, everything is upside down. Believe it or not, there are carebears out there who see CODE. as a force for dishonour instead of honour. Yet their point of view is easily debunked: If the Code is so bad, why do they get upset when our Agents "don't follow their own Code"?
loyalfairy strikes again. what a griefer lel
ReplyDeleteAnon6:13,
DeletePlease show us on your barge doll where loyalanon touched you. Also... you should get a permit.
Thank you citizen.
CODE. argues like women do, turning it all about "feelings" and twisting the logic of the situation. Unfortunately carebears argue like little girls.
DeleteJust wanted to point out that the issue of the miner paying the ganker 200m prior to being ganked was not addressed. I appreciate the level headedness of the loyalanon but the question of honor was raised and a dishonorable deed described but never at any point did you address that you just skipped right over it. If the pilot was charged the money and then ganked then the ganker is indeed without honor as is your entire establishment for condoning such behavior. I will happily change my viewpoint as soon as relevant information is given to show that your affiliates did not participate in said griefing. Until then your "code" is broken.
ReplyDeletePermit. You should of had a permit to begin with. The fault lies completely with you citizen.
DeletePermits are 10M ISK. Good for 1 year. This permit is not a "get out of jail free card'. You MUST follow the CODE.
If you had done this from the start, your honor would of been saved. Pity.
Have a good day citizen.
Sorry, I agree with you but I just have to.
DeleteIt's "would have", never "would of". Even if you want to shorten it, it's still "would've". Now I know, it might sound similar, but I just can't look at "would of" without cringing.
From a customer relations point of view, I've often found it helpful to demonstrate to miners in advance the terrible consequences of not buying a Permit.
DeleteThe 200m or gank - is irrelevant. The complainant is whining about not being 'afforded the opportunity' to buy a Permit. That opportunity has existed for years. In any case, The Code contains no such promise to the miners, and therefore our Agent was utterly in the right.
and I find it helpful to point out to everyone that buying a permit means nothing. That 10M ISK you paid was scammed from you and you will be ganked anyway with the excuse of "you were AFK" or "you didn't warp out fast enough so you are in violation"
DeleteDon't buy in to the bullshit, people!
I find it hard to rely on the word of an anonymous poster with no evidence.
Delete1.5 years in with a permit, and still didn't get ganked... Care to explain @anon8:48
DeleteDirect quote from CHODE. slave loyalanon: "and can I have your stuff?"
ReplyDeleteInteresting coming from a CHODE. slave that has apparently sworn off material wealth and is following the path of Jamey.
This shows his true colors and his greed, both for ISK/material and "tears".
I am not a member of CODE, but I follow it and receive salvation from James 315 the savior of highsec. It doesn't say in the CODE that agents may not own possessions or live a happy joyous existence as a capsuleer. Rather the opposite; a righteous agent of CODE is expected to receive the blessings of New Eden and feel more joy than one could ever hope to have as a hateful miner.
Delete-Foxstar Damaskeenus
sorry excuse for a miner, I will gank you just for having a permit if I find you somewhere.
DeleteNever fear, this carebear is impotent and docked up. We, on the other hand, are powerful, and everywhere...
Delete-Oink
number 1 in eve.
DeleteThis games too easy for me
When you narrow your goals enough, anyone can be number 1 at something. You're number one in kills, not at Eve as a whole. Maybe you could turn your attention to spelling from now on and attempt to be number 1 at that?
DeleteNice try "Wolf" :D
DeleteYeah Veers nice try
DeleteSchizophrenia much there Veers? Or do you have mutliple personality disorder?
Deletegalaxy pig
Delete-oink
Altier strikes me as a very low energy kind of guy.
ReplyDeleteFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. - John 3:16
ReplyDeleteActually, not 'one and only', just 'only'.
DeleteIs this a veiled reference to matters New Order?
NIV translation: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3:16
DeleteNo veiled reference, just The Good News available to all mankind. Jesus Christ is Lord.
Ah, I see. Thanks, Anon 2:42. I never made it past the King James version. Still, would you agree with me that 'one and' is redundant here? I mean, even as emphasis it seems poor.
Delete'Jesus Christ is Lord' - and James 315 is the Saviour of Highsec, whose Blog this is. Let us praise him for his mercy in permitting you to post anonymously and without relevance.
I can put up with almost any amount of s***posting and general boisterousness in this comments section, but for God's sake, let's keep Religion out of it, huh?
Well, since we put it that way, what about James 3:15? According to the NIV, it says:
DeleteSuch “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic.
So from that one verse, we can assume that Jimmy Boy 315 holds demonic wisdom. That means that all you CODEdot people have been deceived.
BM.
aaaaand; context, BM, context.
DeleteTo which sort of 'wisdom' does the verse refer? I'll save you the trouble of looking it up: it refers to particular kinds of jealousy and selfishness. James 315 may be many things to many people, but I never yet heard him described as jealous or selfish!
In any case, I don't think we have an explanation for the '315' after James' name, do we? Perhaps someone will enlighten me...
"I don't have Teamspeak, I'm a casual gamer" LOL
ReplyDeleteI remember this gank quite fondly, it happened right on top of antiganking's faces.
ReplyDeleteBut I thought they all do?
DeleteI remember Wolf losing his freighter then crying like a little bitch in local for an hour
DeletePump your brakes and drive slow homie
ReplyDeleteGlory to the New Order!!!
ReplyDeleteWhen all you cunts have either A) Run EvE into the ground, or B) Win and everyone in high sec joins CODE or has a permit, You'll have nothing to do but stop hiding behind the 'code' and resort to normal piracy. No other game will accept your retarded behaviour.
ReplyDeleteI'm not seeing a downside here...
DeleteB will never happen, because I will NEVER buy this so called permit (extortion). I will also NEVER obey this code garbage. I do what I want and play how I want and nothing will change that.
DeleteSo to sum up...code will NEVER win!
Down with The Mittani, death to the Imperium. MBC shall sing songs of victory.
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