Over the past few years, the number of Code enforcement organizations has proliferated. Though many Agents belong to the mighty CODE. alliance, numerous independent groups enforce the Code in a wide variety of ways. Considering the broad base of our movement and the extraordinary diversity of our Agents and their activities, it's amazing that we've been able to keep everything so perfectly coordinated.
Agent Viirilithizu Ward was on patrol on the Hek region when she came across a suspicious group called Black Rose Fleet Systems. Upon her initial inspection, she learned that the corp's members lacked mining permits. A declaration of war immediately followed. The corp's CEO, StarterrorPrime, refused to make peace.
StarterrorPrime seemed willing to negotiate a business arrangement, but only if he didn't need to buy a "ridiculous" mining permit. He claimed that our Agents don't honour the permits--a vicious rumor that could only have come from the CEO's illicit contacts with rebels.
StarterrorPrime sent a follow-up EVEmail denying that he'd violated the Code. He also outlined his vision: The CEO intended to restore Hek's position as a major trade hub in highsec. Clearly our Agent was dealing with a high roller.
With just hours to go before Viirilithizu's wardec went live, StarterrorPrime contacted CODE. member Alt 00. Perhaps he thought this was a way of going over Viirilithizu's head.
The CEO was interested in doing business with CODE. as part of his overall plan to take over the Hek market. However, he feared that buying a 10 million isk mining permit would cut too deeply into his profits.
Originally sparked by Viirilithizu's wardec, this situation was quickly becoming a high-level diplomatic matter. Maybe StarterrorPrime could take a crisis and turn it into an opportunity. What a businessman.
As with all major alliances in EVE, CODE. has its official diplomatic contacts listed in its in-game description:
But CODE. is different from other alliances.
Unable to establish contact with Light Neutron Blaster II, StarterrorPrime had no choice but to try working out a deal with Alt 00.
As the hours counted down to Viirilithizu's war, StarterrorPrime remained cool as a cucumber. He had every intention of negotiating the best possible deal for his corporation. The future of the Hek market and StarterrorPrime's empire were at stake.
To be continued...
What could be a better deal than a mining permit? PLEX costs for omega time have more than doubled in the same time frame, but the permit has remained constant at 10m ISK.
ReplyDeleteYou're still an idiot. You're right some things never change.
DeleteYour a target even with the permit as the code is made up on the fly.
DeleteWasn't the goal of James' code to prevent plex inflation. Looks like a failure to me.
DeleteI was a CEO of a mining and industrial company, so I get StarterrorPrime's line of thinking. He is an industrialist. He wants a good ROI on anything he sinks money into. The ROI from a Mining Permit from the view of industrialists like him...and I...is 0%. It maintains a status quo that existed before CODE. He's willing to play ball, but he wants to see what he can get out of it.
ReplyDeleteI know what you're gonna say: "Ehnea, Ehnea, Ehnea, this is not about ISK! It's about building a better EvE Online community and miners should be higher quality calibre players."
(before I go on, I always thought I was a pretty decent player to be around, but...that's my ego talking)
Maybe that's true, but I found EvE Online companies are a pretty good mirror of real life companies. Have you ever heard of any company putting saving the environment, helping the poor, or protecting the children above their balance sheet? Such noble idealism might be a strong second if a smart CEO can work an angle from it, but never #1.
This might come as a shocker, but a lot of miners do agree with some points with THE NEW HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT, like no botting, don't be jerks in local, never AFK mine and fit defensively rather than for maximum ISK generation.
Industrialists get rather ornery when they are considered little better than whack-a-moles for someone else's lulz, but if CODE really did have a diplomat (not a blaster!) to sell THE NEW HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT as a positive business document instead of an ultimatum, you'd have more compliance.
You contradict yourself.
DeleteRL corporations must pay taxes to support the government, help society and prove they're good citizens. And naturally governments reserve the right to apply violence to those not in compliance.
Just like the New Order. Pay your dues or suffer the consequences: perhaps the closest analogy to RL that Eve has to offer.
And just like RL, non-payers are ostracised by informed polite society.
It's no surprise that miners agree with parts of The Code. Much of it is simply smart piloting practices that wise capsuleers would follow anyway.
DeleteThe sticking point I see most often is the misplaced sense of pride that some miners still possess. Some even refuse to accept their place at the bottom of the EVE hierarchy! Those ones become rebels.
Each clause of The Code is equally important and there is no such thing as partial compliance. In order for a miner to be saved, he must support Saviour and Supreme Protector of Highsec James 315. He must be humble and subservient to his betters (ie. everyone).
We will not compromise ourselves by attempting to run the New Order as a business. That would make the miners customers, and entitled ones at that. Perish the thought!
Anonymous720PM No contradiction. In fact, you kinda proved my point with the following:
Delete"RL corporations must pay taxes to support the government, help society and prove they're good citizens. And naturally governments reserve the right to apply violence to those not in compliance."
They must...not out of the kindness of their heart but because they are forced to. Trust me, do you think they will pay taxes, follow labour laws, or respect the environment had those controls not existed? Trust me, they wouldn't.
I'm no anti-capitalist activist. I'm actually a big fan of it, but even I agree big business both in-game and out are greedy bastards. :P'
LOL Professor, just offering the perspective of what makes miners and industrialists tick.
Delete"Some even refuse to accept their place at the bottom of the EVE hierarchy!"...annnnnnnnd this opinion about miners is precisely, with no surprise, why some of us become rebels. :P
The professor is suffering from mental anguish, he knows the end is near and is not willing to accept the consequence.
Deleteyeah... but you know what makes me tick? Making ISK. And just so happens that 10M for permit is cheaper than most of my ships. If that permit makes me avoid destruction of my ship even once then it has paid for itself. 10M is almost nothing - so don't say that indy/trade/mining corp won't be able to run profit just by the virtue of paying 10M for permit.
DeleteHey, darkestkhan, I never said that paying a permit would take away the ability to earn a profit. I was talking about the ROI from buying one. What does a permit give back that is new, as opposed to something that already existed?
DeleteI agree that not all miners and industrialists say and think the same way. Not all of us are equal in ISK production. Some are new players who are just getting into their first Venture while others are seasoned mining veterans who fly advanced exhumers. Some are Omega accounts and some, like myself, are Alpha accounts. It's pretty much uneven across the board.
Whatever people decide to do is up to each individual. Not paying a permit has worked out well for me. Paying for a permit seems to have worked for you. Hurray for the sandbox.
Hey Professor Lawton
DeleteSome of what you said reminded me of what the Amarrians used to think about Minmatar. You know, something like "the only good Minmatar is a slave" or something to that effect in the game lore.
Any chance parts of the New Halaima Code of Conduct were pulled from Amarrian scripture?
The New Halaima Code of Conduct is an original document, Thurasi. I am not aware of any influences from EVE lore.
DeleteThe Saviour elaborates at length on the history and philosophy that preceded The Code in His 2011 Manifesto:
Let me tell you why people are killing highsec miners. (forums.eveonline.com)
its CODE. ehnniepoo....how are you still incapable of even spelling the name of the alliance correctly, and at the same time thinking your opinion has validity.
Deletemy bed is its your time as a miner causing your affliction.
LvG if you really have to go suborbital over a missing period, maybe it is you who needs to stay out of the belts. Actually, maybe it iis time for you to hang it up. You have invested too much of your self worth in game.
DeleteAnd it's "my bad", dope.
Having a permit means nothing other than they have your isk and you don't. It doesn't guarantee your safety from them or anyone else. Though, it is a great business model
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DeleteLawrence I remember you praising the new order as egalitarian, now its a hierarchy? Make up your mind. Or did that change as the code changes. CONSTANTLY.
Delete@darkestkhan 9:44:
DeleteBAHAHAHAHA, you actually believe that? You might as well just pick a random person out of local and send them 10m isk. It will mean exactly the same thing! You will still be ganked and the idiots that ganked you will simply say "Oh, well since I caught you then you were in violation and your permit revoked". I find it hilarious that you buy into their crap.
The only way to be compliant is to be an agent of The New Order
ReplyDeleteO dear. It isn't often that I feel the need to avail myself of the language of the school yard; but in describing StarterrorPrime's character, forced I am indeed.
ReplyDeleteWhat a wanker.
Dreadful language
DeleteThat's a red pen.
DeleteGuilty as charged! Off with my head!!
DeleteOh you are just a treat. Seriously your like the best thing on this blog.
Deletewow antigankers are failing so hard and crying even harder right now \0\ /0/ \0/ LOL!
ReplyDeletewow antigankers are failing so hard and crying even harder right now \0\ /0/ \0/ LOL!
DeleteThey can't be crying any harder from laughing at you than that one time you lost 40billion isk. Do you even play anymore or do you just shit up this board everyday all day at all times of the day?
Deleteyou mean the time that zopi took ships and gave them to snigie, who used them to enforce The Code? what a dastardly heist.
Deleteyesterday it was 50bil today its 40 bil a few months ago it was 25 bil make your mind up XD XD
Deletep.s code is still ganking so it must have been an effective heist XD
p.s.s remember that time i got kalorned/tweeps/snigie and saltyclone booted from the alliance without even playing the game XD XD
yesterday it was 50bil today its 40 bil a few months ago it was 25 bil make your mind up XD XD
Deletep.s code is still ganking so it must have been an effective heist XD
p.s.s remember that time i got kalorned/tweeps/snigie and saltyclone booted from the alliance without even playing the game XD XD
Hey Wolf sorry to hear about your court date, but then again you shouldn't beat your kids.
Deleteahh, so they are the ones who are responsible for market destabilization in hek. I know bad guy when I see him - and they are bad guys.
ReplyDeleteYeah code actually does nothing.
DeleteBest role playing comedy on the net...here's an exclusive pic of a CODE meeting.
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posts an exclusive "reddit" pic. so edgy. much humor such edgy XD XD
Deleteposts an exclusive "reddit" pic. so edgy. much humor such edgy XD XD
DeleteThis is all "exclusive" silliness
DeleteToo true
DeleteLest we forget His Rotundness and Unemployed...Jimmy 3.15
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Its James. Playing WoW
Deleteholy shit starterror prime strikes again https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=521339&find=unread
ReplyDeletealways remember Viirilithizu Ward!
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