Upon being suicide ganked, a miner should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary.Ah, the Good Fight Clause. Of all the provisions in the Code, this is one of the most frequently violated--and complained about. Highsec miners (and all other players against whom the Code is enforced, as the provision applies to them, too) have always had difficulty understanding why they owe their attackers a "gf".
The Code violator always has an excuse for not offering a "gf". It wasn't a good fight because I was in a pod instead of a proper ship, they say. Or, it wasn't a good fight because I was in a mining ship with no weapons (kindly ignore the deadly combat drones). Or, it wasn't a good fight because I was in a combat ship, but I was AFK. Or, I was in a combat ship and defeated in traditional combat, but it doesn't count for reasons X, Y, or Z.
In reality, it's not the particular conditions or circumstances of the fight that cause the Code violator to disobey the Code. He refuses to offer a "gf" regardless, for the simple reason that he is a bot-aspirant.
That's why the Good Fight Clause is in the Code: It's a bot-aspirancy test. Not unlike the permit requirement, actually. The bot-aspirant carebear believes and hopes and behaves as if highsec is 100% safe. He doesn't need to worry about PvP; he's in a PvE-only zone. Then an Agent of the New Order comes along and engages in PvP with him, which results in the bot-aspirant's death. How does he resolve this conundrum? Does he admit that he was wrong? Heck no!
The bot-aspirant decides that the PvP he just experienced wasn't PvP at all. He denies the legitimacy of the combat, whether it involved suicide ganking, wardecs, aggression games, kill rights, awoxing, or any other mechanism by which fun can be had.
In this state of denial, a carebear may accuse the Agent of griefing, harassment, bullying, exploiting, etc. He may petition his loss. Usually, though, he simply refuses to accept that he was engaged in PvP. Often, the carebear will instruct our Agent that if he wants PvP, he should go to lowsec. Even though our Agent just found success while looking for PvP in highsec!
Now consider the alternative. If a carebear responds to a gank with a "gf" and means it, he has acknowledged the legitimacy of highsec PvP. He isn't wasting a GM's time with a frivolous petition. He isn't begging CCP for absolute safety in highsec. He isn't insisting that he be allowed to engage in risk-free PvE and break the risk/reward dynamics of the EVE universe.
That, my friends, is a good start.
I'd like to conclude today's post by addressing a common question we get from scummy rebels: Are Agents of the New Order also required to offer a "gf"? Even if the PvP involves an Anti-Ganker attempting to interfere with an Agent's gank?
The Code provision in question refers to a responsibility that carebears have, not Agents. An Agent may, in his discretion, choose to honour another player with a "gf", if he feels moved to do so. He is not required to, of course, for the same reason that an Agent is not required to carry a mining permit. There's no need to test an Agent for bot-aspirancy, no need to question his belief in the legitimacy of highsec PvP.
The Agent is PvP incarnate; he is EVE, the best of EVE. He is the living embodiment of EVE's purpose and its content. The Agents of the New Order carry the torch of EVE for as long as the game still exists. We are its fire and light.
And that, really, is honour enough. Carebears, when you see an Agent of the New Order in local, you should feel immensely grateful--even before he starts shooting you.
saying GF also means you are pro at taking a loss. you understand that you can lose your stuff in eve and move on. crying about your pod or your mining ship wont bring it back. gf means you accept what happened and will get back into the saddle and go at it again
ReplyDeleteNonsense it means nothing of the sort
DeleteJames, your wisdom illuminates the darkest corners, and darkest heads of Highsec! The civilization of capsuleers will see one day that no one did more for them than the Saviour!
ReplyDeleteThere is no savior, no god, no one to save the crying babies of Code.
DeleteCode will never overcome The mighty Miners.
Test of Valour. Prove you are not afraid to die by Coding a valuable ship, and do so in a manner that demonstrates integrity and honesty.
DeleteTest of Wisdom. Correctly answer the almighty Lord Rage's questions three. Each question must be answered within 20 seconds. The Questions Three will be different for each code monkey each day.
Test of Fortitude. Walk a mile in the miners shoes by becoming a miner. You must continue to mine for an indefinite period of time.
Until you can pass these tests victory is beyond your grasp.
The Code always wins! Always!
DeleteDid you pass the tests? No. Then no you didn't.
Delete"The Agent is PvP incarnate; he is EVE, the best of EVE. He is the living embodiment of EVE's purpose and its content. The Agents of the New Order carry the torch of EVE for as long as the game still exists. We are its fire and light."
ReplyDeleteAs we approach another important anniversary, I am reminded of the friends that we have lost along the way. Soon we will come together to remember the the Martyrs of Highsec and reflect upon the lessons that they have taught us.
I thought it would be appropriate to share some of my own reflections...
One can participate in the Highsec-wide culture of compliance without ever identifying oneself as an Agent of the New Order. Take, for example, the humble ISK doubler. While many ISK doublers openly identify as Agents of the New Order, those who do not still serve the greater good. While many ISK doublers have declared their support for James 315 and the New Order of Highsec by purchasing shares, the very act of ISK doubling affirms the principles set forth in the Code. ISK doublers are, by definition, participants in the culture of compliance. Long-time supporters of the New Order will recognize the truth of these statements. They recognize that there are many ways to enforce the Code. The rules set forth in the New Halaima Code of Conduct serve to legitimate other rule-sets. Consider Erotica 1's definitive ISK doubling rule-set. This rule-set was brilliant because it was guided by the Code. However, the rule-set made no explicit reference to the Code.
I point to this example because it demonstrates an important lesson. Agents of the New Order are powerful because the Code gives them freedom. Freedom affords Agents a great deal of power. This power is derived from the Code, but it is also derived from the freedom the Code affords them. All Agents enjoy this virtuous cycle.
There is an important lesson to be drawn from the fairly obvious observations I have outlined above. Agents can capitalize upon their tremendous freedom to increase their power. They can do so by discovering new and innovative methods of Code enforcement. James 315 recognized this. Erotica 1 recognized this.
But do you recognize it?
There are many ways to serve the New Order. I implore all Agents to follow in in the footsteps of our forefathers. Allow the Code to guide you in discovering new ways to improve Highsec. Keep Erotica 1's example in mind.
Blessed are the Martyrs of Highsec.
"Blessed are the Martyrs of High Sec . . . "
DeleteFor they are unable to separate Real Life from a video game, desiring naught but to instigate, foment and provoke Real Life interactions, abuse and harm in order to promulagate and support a perverted sense of superiority, using the threadbare excuse of "It's just a video game" to do so.
Yeah kalynn shardani (antiganking moderator) had a hard time seperating real life from a video game and got so upset about ganking that he killed his infant child and himself. His wife must have told him its just a video game when he would be screaming and smashing the keyboard that the only eay to hurt her was to kill his infant child.
DeleteWhy else would you do something like that except to just spite tbe person telling you its a video game.
Antigankers and antiganking in general are disgusting that they still hold the name kalynn shardani in reverence and havent/wont denounce his actions.
P.s -antiganking is failing hard
'Anonymous' - EVE is a video game about destroying imaginary spaceships. We are good at this, which makes us superior, as you have correctly alluded to.
DeleteIf for reasons unknown you take offence to Code, then stop crying on our blog, and take up arms against us.
And if it all seems too much for you, perhaps you should consider a game more suited to your level, such as Fisher-Price 'Save the Aliens'?
EVE is not exclusively PVP
DeleteKalynn Shardani: demon lord of anti-gankers.
DeleteAnti-ganker, and laborious bastard, Max is so obsessed with her that his anger may cause him to follow her path. Let go man. It really is just a game. Have fun or do something else.
EVE is an exclusively PVP game. My Light Neutron Blasters will reliably back up this assertion.
DeleteKaylnn Shardani, what a terrible terrible person. There is a special place in hell for people like him. In Eve we call it the anti-ganking channel.
DeleteWolf (Loyal), you need to let go the death of your husband.
DeleteIf its true that kalynn did these things in response to code, then code is responsible for driving a person to do such horrid things. You should really stop talking about it seeing as how you may have caused the act with harassment and cyber bullying.
DeleteBingo, got another bingo for wolf saying kalynn, I get 100 mill as a prize for code bingo, you fucks are so predictable.
DeleteEVE IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY PVP
DeleteNot much freedom even in death in real life, you retards don't even respect someone who is dead. You complain that miners don't separate real life from the game but here you are acting just like miners.
DeleteCode has become miners.
Has most of my toons are indy based, I can say I enjoy what code have brought to eve. If on the odd occasion I have missed on dscan on eye on local,thats led to a gank. I have always given a gf.
DeleteAlso if the agents failed, in his gank I still give a gf for the effort.
The Code always wins! Always!
DeleteCode cannot separate the game from RL. Code has become miners.
DeleteWhatever you say, Puffy
ReplyDeleteWere were kalynn's killer karebears? Why did they not save this miner?
ReplyDeleteMore importantly, what is the deal with the 315 billion donation?!? As an antiganker I am VERY CONCERNED about this new development.
ReplyDeleteI say the Code always wins!
ReplyDeleteAlways!
You say "yes sir" when adressing an elite pvp'er.
Always!
A GF can also mean get fucked, which is what I would say if an Agent did not return the favour. In fact if it is not returned then it just shows ignorance and lack of respect.
ReplyDeleteSure, shame you guys keep getting killed.
ReplyDeleteBingo I got the "elite pvp" space.
ReplyDeleteThanks losers.
The website is no longer nerfed, go nuts and post all you can it is violating the law.
ReplyDeleteto my knowledge... procurer has 60k ehp and about 100 dps while being quite cheap (25M is cheap)... throw 50 of them at battleship and I doubt he can survive this (compromise on tank for scramblers and webifiers, throw in frigates to let procs catch up to him...) but miners can only whine, no actual battle can be done by them
ReplyDeleteHence not a fight, not an elite PVP.